I rode my 559X22MM shod, lightwheeled Riv Commuter (~ 22 lbs with fenders,
Tubus Fly, SON, Edeluxe, rear lights) with small load today, and I was
having a blast standing to accelerate out of corners and on rises. Why?
Yesterday I rode the heavy Sam Hill with its heavy, 622X33.33 wheels (and,
to be fair, a heavier load, but that's the point, no?) that felt like
molasses in comparison.

Patrick "cookies? Pah! Give me a PB&J burrito!" Moore

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> on 8/4/10 9:57 PM, Anne Paulson at anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:44 PM, doug peterson <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> Anne presents a concise thought exercise, pertinent to the original
> >> post.  While I agree that subtle differences in weight can make
> >> significant differences in speed and/or time, I'll gladly haul the
> >> cookies.
> >>
> >
> > Of course, I omitted the other side of the story. I'm the one in my
> > group who rides a Rivendell and carries cookies in a saddlebag. The
> > others ride carbon fiber bikes, no saddlebags, no triple cranksets,
> > and they barely carry anything. Yet I still climb faster  than some of
> > them-- because my bike is so comfortable, cookies on bike rides so
> > delicious, and low gears so great, that I ride all the time. Better to
> > have five pounds less on me and five pounds more on a great bike.
>
> Anne wins.
>
> Cookies are good.
>
> Also, I've found from personal experience that if you bring baked goods on
> long rides, people will happily wait for you at the top of hills.  Maybe
> not
> every hill, but enough that you don't have to worry about being picked off
> by predatory animals when you are out back of beyond.
>
> And, if folks do want to see the effects of weight on climbing, there are
> tools at Analytic Cycling that allow you to do that with great specificity.
>
> http://analyticcycling.com
>
> It comes up in a few of the analysis articles in Bicycle Quarterly.
>
> I'll also add to Anne's scenario -
>
> When you crest out 60 seconds behind yourself, and the other you is riding
> a
> skinny-tired bike downhill at speed over even slightly degraded pavement,
> the you riding the phenomenally stable, large-tire allowing Rivendell
> design
> will pretty easily catch up to the now-very-nervous-and-vibrating you, and,
> while toasting them with the cookie, easily zip through the next chicane
> and
> disappear from sight. But, you are also nice enough to ease up on the
> pedals
> when you hit the level ground, so that the other you can catch up.
>
> Palabra.
>
> - Jim
>
>
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