I think, Robert, that this all depends upon ones perspective.

Angus

On Jan 27, 1:45 pm, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If they are built here, they are better.  Think about everything bad
> that's associated w/ a Taiwanese made product.
>
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Angus <angusle...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Bob,
>
> > I've had two Rivendells (non Atlantis) built by Waterford.  They were
> > very well done.
>
> > I've had two Rivendell (one an Atlantis) built by Toyo.  They were
> > also very well done.
>
> > I have not been able to detect a difference.
>
> > Angus
>
> > On Jan 22, 10:34 pm, Bob <prov...@umbc.edu> wrote:
> >> How does the Toyo built Atlantis differ in quality and/or geometry
> >> from the Waterford edition?  Exclude differences in braze-ons,
> >> kickstand plate and range of sizes.
>
> >> In other words, what, if anything, was gained or lost by the change in
> >> builder?
>
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