First bid up, and much better photos loaded. The color is even better
in these views. Well done Riv!

http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/337

Marty

On Mar 5, 8:54 am, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote:
> Another opinion - am 6' with an 89cm pbh and ride a 56cm fist
> generation Sam Hillborne.  That was after a lot of discussion and
> worry on my part.
> Photo of bike from last summer -http://tinyurl.com/6f2bbnc
>
> On the new generation of Hillborne bikes, I could (and probably would)
> ride a 60cm frame.  Have test ridden one and it works.  Quite well, in
> fact.
>
> For comparison, was recently able to straddle a Hillborne from the
> same time period as mine.  Wow, that was a big bike.  Could barely
> reach the bars as it was setup.  Would probably need a 60mm stem to be
> comfortable.  Maybe even a 50.
>
> Do happen to like the look of this latest Hillborne, but the color
> seems awfully close to Surly's "Utility Blue" from a couple of years
> ago.  Not a bad thing.  Just very similar to my eyes.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Mar 4, 7:21 pm, nathan spindel <nath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for all your input! I live in the bay area, so maybe I'll try to do 
> > a test ride at RBW before I decide to bid.
>
> > -nathan
>
> > On Friday, March 4, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
> > > Hi!
>
> > > To me it seems you're right at the spot where there's no clear winner
> > > without considering various factors.
>
> > > If you like high bars (say, 2-3cm or more above the saddle) and intend
> > > to avoid truly rugged terrain, I'd say the 60cm would be the default
> > > choice.
>
> > > If you like lower-than-that bars or ride in the hooks or want to
> > > accommodate rough stuff or have short arms or intend to ride thinly-
> > > shod a lot, then I'd say the 56cm would work better.
>
> > > Of course, if you get a chance to straddle a 60cm set up roughly "your
> > > way", you'll know one way or the other pretty quickly.
>
> > > I'm 6' tall, have a 90 PBH, like *very* high bars (5-10 cm above the
> > > saddle), ride bad roads and "improved" trails (no out-in-the-middle-of-
> > > the-field or boulder-skipping stuff), use 700x40 or 700x38 tires
> > > @60-70psi, and *never* let the weather stop me (the 700x40 tires have
> > > 240 studs). My 60cm Sam is near perfect. A 61cm would certainly be
> > > even better. A 62 would work either even better or not at all. The
> > > 64cm is definitely a no-go.
>
> > > Here are various pictures of my bike. I do like my handlebars high.
> > > But the frame felt fine for me even with the Bullmoose 150mm bars as
> > > pictured. (I lately have chosen to ride with those bars on the RBW-
> > > sold steerer extender. That is a *sweet* ride! But I'll switch 'em
> > > back some too.)
>
> > > (Try to ignore the "rampant" look in the photos. I've since cut the
> > > kickstand down a bit. It looks *way* more normal, even with the really
> > > high bars.)
>
> > >http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/albatross-bike.jpg
> > >http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/bullmoose-bike.jpg
> > >http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/moustache-bike.jpg
> > >http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/noodle-bike.jpg
>
> > > (All the configurations have a Dirt Drop 100 stem.)
>
> > > Yours,
> > > Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> > > On Mar 4, 12:17 pm, nathan spindel <nath...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > It's beautiful. I'm tempted… but is a 56cm Sam too small for me? I'm 
> > > > 5'11", 88 PBH, SH usually around 77-78. Would that result in a lotta 
> > > > seatpost showing / would a 60cm Sam fit me better?
>
> > > > -nathan
>
> > > > On Friday, March 4, 2011 at 7:51 AM, scott wrote:
> > > > > Holy Smokes! I think the Sam Riv is auctioning right now is the nicest
> > > > > color I've seen in a long time. It makes the single color paint job
> > > > > pop! I would be thrilled if the new batch of Sam's were this color. In
> > > > > other words, GRANT and Crew, please use this color on the new
> > > > > Sams!!!!!
>
> > > > > Scott "Counting pennies for a Hillborne" Lutz
>
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