And as for function, I'm riding a Hillborne right now with the exact same 
gearing: 24-36-46 in front and the amazing 12-36 9-speed in the back, and my 
experience is that this gearing on this bike is outstanding.


On Mar 5, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Marty wrote:

> First bid up, and much better photos loaded. The color is even better
> in these views. Well done Riv!
> 
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/337
> 
> Marty
> 
> On Mar 5, 8:54 am, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Another opinion - am 6' with an 89cm pbh and ride a 56cm fist
>> generation Sam Hillborne.  That was after a lot of discussion and
>> worry on my part.
>> Photo of bike from last summer -http://tinyurl.com/6f2bbnc
>> 
>> On the new generation of Hillborne bikes, I could (and probably would)
>> ride a 60cm frame.  Have test ridden one and it works.  Quite well, in
>> fact.
>> 
>> For comparison, was recently able to straddle a Hillborne from the
>> same time period as mine.  Wow, that was a big bike.  Could barely
>> reach the bars as it was setup.  Would probably need a 60mm stem to be
>> comfortable.  Maybe even a 50.
>> 
>> Do happen to like the look of this latest Hillborne, but the color
>> seems awfully close to Surly's "Utility Blue" from a couple of years
>> ago.  Not a bad thing.  Just very similar to my eyes.
>> 
>> Eric Platt
>> St. Paul, MN
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 7:21 pm, nathan spindel <nath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Thanks for all your input! I live in the bay area, so maybe I'll try to do 
>>> a test ride at RBW before I decide to bid.
>> 
>>> -nathan
>> 
>>> On Friday, March 4, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>> 
>>>> To me it seems you're right at the spot where there's no clear winner
>>>> without considering various factors.
>> 
>>>> If you like high bars (say, 2-3cm or more above the saddle) and intend
>>>> to avoid truly rugged terrain, I'd say the 60cm would be the default
>>>> choice.
>> 
>>>> If you like lower-than-that bars or ride in the hooks or want to
>>>> accommodate rough stuff or have short arms or intend to ride thinly-
>>>> shod a lot, then I'd say the 56cm would work better.
>> 
>>>> Of course, if you get a chance to straddle a 60cm set up roughly "your
>>>> way", you'll know one way or the other pretty quickly.
>> 
>>>> I'm 6' tall, have a 90 PBH, like *very* high bars (5-10 cm above the
>>>> saddle), ride bad roads and "improved" trails (no out-in-the-middle-of-
>>>> the-field or boulder-skipping stuff), use 700x40 or 700x38 tires
>>>> @60-70psi, and *never* let the weather stop me (the 700x40 tires have
>>>> 240 studs). My 60cm Sam is near perfect. A 61cm would certainly be
>>>> even better. A 62 would work either even better or not at all. The
>>>> 64cm is definitely a no-go.
>> 
>>>> Here are various pictures of my bike. I do like my handlebars high.
>>>> But the frame felt fine for me even with the Bullmoose 150mm bars as
>>>> pictured. (I lately have chosen to ride with those bars on the RBW-
>>>> sold steerer extender. That is a *sweet* ride! But I'll switch 'em
>>>> back some too.)
>> 
>>>> (Try to ignore the "rampant" look in the photos. I've since cut the
>>>> kickstand down a bit. It looks *way* more normal, even with the really
>>>> high bars.)
>> 
>>>> http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/albatross-bike.jpg
>>>> http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/bullmoose-bike.jpg
>>>> http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/moustache-bike.jpg
>>>> http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/noodle-bike.jpg
>> 
>>>> (All the configurations have a Dirt Drop 100 stem.)
>> 
>>>> Yours,
>>>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 12:17 pm, nathan spindel <nath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> It's beautiful. I'm tempted… but is a 56cm Sam too small for me? I'm 
>>>>> 5'11", 88 PBH, SH usually around 77-78. Would that result in a lotta 
>>>>> seatpost showing / would a 60cm Sam fit me better?
>> 
>>>>> -nathan
>> 
>>>>> On Friday, March 4, 2011 at 7:51 AM, scott wrote:
>>>>>> Holy Smokes! I think the Sam Riv is auctioning right now is the nicest
>>>>>> color I've seen in a long time. It makes the single color paint job
>>>>>> pop! I would be thrilled if the new batch of Sam's were this color. In
>>>>>> other words, GRANT and Crew, please use this color on the new
>>>>>> Sams!!!!!
>> 
>>>>>> Scott "Counting pennies for a Hillborne" Lutz
>> 
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