Here is the price difference, @ Jenson USA: http://tinyurl.com/4b38t4p
I only use friction shifting with an 11-34 XT cassette and XT shadow derailleur. Works beautifully. On Mar 6, 5:39 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know where you get a $35 price difference. Maybe if you find > some used ones on ebay you can get Shimanos for under $60, but Riv > sells Silvers for $92 and Shimanos for $82 or $92 for 8 speed and 9 > speed respectively. I don't think anyone in their right mind would > ever claim that Shimano indexed barcon shifters don't work > fantastically when you have the right combination of derailer and > cassette to go with you shifters. If, like a lot of us, you don't > want to be tied to having to match your cassette and derailer to your > shifter, then you can go friction. It's a longstanding Rivendell > opinion that shifting a bicycle is incredibly simple. Index might be > even simpler, but the task was already ridiculously simple to start > with. Clip on ties are simpler to put on than neckties that you tie, > but I know how to tie a tie, so the benefit is negligible. Friction > shifting is incredibly easy, and index is even easier, but I know how > to shift in friction so the benefit is negligible. Silvers feel a LOT > better in friction mode, I think. Both are fantastic. In my garage > at the moment there are 3 bikes with Shimano bar ends, and 3 with > Silvers (or Suntour Sprints). They all shift great. If Shimanos > really are $35 cheaper to you, and if you like them, then I'd stock > up, because indicators tell us they will not be around for long. > > On Mar 6, 1:09 pm, Mike S <mikeshalj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I have Shimano Ultegra bar end shifters on a bike of mine, and in my > > opinion they work splendidly. I've never had any mechanical problem > > with them in two years, they're made in Japan (I think) and I don't > > know of any plasticy vulnerabilities. They are also $35 cheaper than > > the Silvers, so I'm wondering why/if people think the Silvers are far > > superior? > > > I was going to get the SIlvers when I was setting this bike up, but > > the price tag was a bit hefty compared to the Shimanos. ANybody got an > > argument as to why Silvers are worth it? > > > On Mar 6, 2:05 pm, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Its okay Grant.......I'd say most of us are sensible enough to realize > > > the insignificance and accept the commonly available substitute born > > > of Yankee ingenuity. > > > > On Mar 6, 10:30 am, grant <grant...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Nobody should be horrified, shocked, or even disappointed that we > > > > "spec'd a part with fragile plastic." There's more to it than that. > > > > We don't get lab results or long-term test results for every part on > > > > every component we use. There's a certain amount of faith involved, or > > > > else you can't move. In this case, the same sources were used for the > > > > Silver washers as were used for the SunTour Sprint washers, and I've > > > > had them last 5 years. "Failure" means they crack or a chunk falls > > > > out, but they are failsafe----meaning safe when they've failed. We > > > > don't use plastic forks (except for eating with sometimes), but a > > > > plastic washer now and then....it's not horrid. > > > > Two years ago we offered a 3-piece metal and plastic mix of washers > > > > you could get at a hardware store. We provided them free for the > > > > asking. Beyond that, we told the maker Hey Please Do Better, and > > > > before we OK'd the "improved" part, we hung it and an old one out in > > > > the sun, zip-tied to a bike rack where it could get sunbaked badly. > > > > Then we tried to mash both. The old cracked, the new didn't, and those > > > > are the ones we got now. > > > > > Grant "this is as defensive as I get, and sorry 'bout it" Petersen > > > > > On Mar 5, 2:23 pm, Justin August <justinaug...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Took out the Bleriot with Hetres for a spin and while hanging out > > > > > reading a book it fell over and now one of my compression washers is > > > > > cracked. Annoying, can't believe Riv specced a part with fragile > > > > > plastic, etc…. > > > > > > My question: Do I wait for VO to get more in stock or can I use > > > > > something else? Can I use a leather washer instead of a compression > > > > > washer? > > > > > > Or am I boned? > > > > > > Pics of the Bleriot: (ignore my front derailler cable > > > > > fray)http://www.flickr.com/photos/justinaugust/5500751630/in/set-721576245... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
