If drops aren't more comfortable than "mountain bike" bars, and they're at the same height as the saddle or above, you'll more comfortable as you limber up and lose the gut; well, that's my experience, not yours, so take it with some windage...but even when younger (now at 56), the paunch that appears when not riding will eventually shrink while riding, diet permitting.
The "North Road" type, like the Albatross and Porteurs, the ends point back and are good for my wrists, but don't offer as many postions as a good drop bar. I think most riders on the new-fangled brake/shifters don't seem to use much more than a straight bar with the brifter, acting as bar ends. Ultimately, the wrists and the ulnar nerves tell me what a good bar is, especially when I can use a range of postitions: crouch to sprint, stand to power on, sit to spin or look around. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Bertin753 <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Damned iPhone. > > As I was saying, I look at that tight bend with long ramps -- 135 mm drop, > 115 mm reach -- and they look so comfortable. The 185s are very nice but, if > you have them set up with the statutory level ends, the ramps are very short > and steep. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Bertin753 <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Jim -- I look at nice, tight, shallow bend on the "PRallels" > > > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote: > > > >> Patrick, > >> I think the Grand Bois Maes Parallel type bars look quite nice. Peter > >> Weigle used them on his "Black Tie" bike that was featured in BQ. > >> Here's a link to Weigle's Photostream of that bike: > >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/sets/72157625305683679/with/ > 5209479494/ > >> > >> Still it begs the question, why would you want to replace the Nitto > >> Mod. 185 bars on your Riv customs? I think the Mod 185 is one of the > >> nicest bars I've used. Just thinking... > >> > >> Jim Cloud > >> Tucson, AZ > >> > >> On Jun 6, 6:01 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Has anyone tried these or the functional equivalents? > >>> > >>> http://www.compasscycle.com/images/MaesPara800.jpg > >>> > >>> (From Compass Bicycles:http://www.compasscycle.com/Handlebars.html) > >>> > >>> Copies of these, apparently: > http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/Hersefixed.jpg > >>> > >>> Me, Ahm 'a thinkin' that they may well do very nicely as replacements > >>> for the Nitto 185s on the 8 cm Nitto stems on my two low-bar Riv > >>> customs. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Bill M. <bmenn...@comcast.net> wrote: > >>>> 52 years young here, and for me drops are the only comfortable long- > >>>> distance option. I do have and like the Noodles, but I find that the > >>>> modern 'compact' or 'short-n-shallow' shaped bars have some > >>>> advantages. The short drop makes the drop position easier to reach > >>>> without the raising tops so high that standing to climb feels > >>>> ungainly. The short reach seems to me more appropriate when using > >>>> modern brake levers. Long reach bars were designed for non-aero brake > >>>> levers. Modern brake levers (be they brifters or Tektro or SRAM aero > >>>> levers) allow a hand position that's a couple of cm further forward > >>>> than did non-aero or even early aero levers. The shorter reach of the > >>>> compact bars compensates for that extra reach. > >>> > >>>> I use a 3T Ergosum bar on my go-fast (with Campy brifters) and find > >>>> its very comfortable whether on the hoods, the ramps, the hooks or the > >>>> drops. Unfortunately it's only available in black and 31.8. Ritchie > >>>> now makes a bar called the Classic Curve that looks similar, same > >>>> drop, a bit less reach, still 31.8 but polished silver. It should > >>>> look OK with a silver VO stem and a threadless adapter. > >>> > >>>> I have another bike with a Salsa Woodchipper off-road drop bar. It's > >>>> very short reach, very short drop, very wide and very flared in the > >>>> drops. It looks a bit awkward and makes parking the bike harder, but > >>>> once rolling I find it's pretty comfortable. > >>> > >>>> the Noodles are on my Riv, but with a shorter stem than I used to > >>>> ride. Even with the tops at saddle height the drops feel low and the > >>>> hoods far away. I'm tempted to try the Classic Curve on that bike. > >>>> I'm already using a threadless stem and adapter so the swap would be > >>>> easy. And the threadless + adapter combo is actually lighter than the > >>>> Technomic Deluxe it replaced. > >>> > >>>> Bill > >>> > >>>> I really recommend you try a compact or short-n-shallow bar before you > >>>> write off drops. Grinding into a headwind on North Roads just isn't a > >>>> lot of fun. > >>> > >>>> On Jun 6, 8:55 am, canali <jwcoll...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> just wondering if it's just me and i need to take my time adding the > >>>>> mileage and being consistent and patient (and getting back into > >>>>> shape) > >>> > >>>>> OR do alot of us as we get older no longer find being so bent down as > >>>>> comfortable...thinking of swapping out drops on atlantis for jeff > >>>>> jones h loop bars or the north road bars. > >>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Patrick Moore > >>> Albuquerque, NM > >>> For professional resumes, contact > >>> Patrick Moore, ACRW > >>> patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > >>> > >>> A billion stars go spinning through the night > >>> Blazing high above your head; > >>> But in you is the Presence that will be > >>> When all the stars are dead. > >>> (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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