I had a stiff link on a HG 7 speed chain that drove me crazy until I
figured it out.  Crazy how one stiff link can make the ride so poor.
On Dec 23, 2011 11:09 AM, "bionnaki" <bionn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have no problems with a 9-speed sram chain on all dura ace.
>
> perhaps there was a problem with the chain installation. stiff link?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Joe Bartoe <jbar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  In my experience, yes, the SRAM chains work better on SRAM drivetrains
>> than on Shimano drivetrains. I also find that on my Force and Red
>> drivetrains that replacing the SRAM cassette and chain with Shimano
>> Ultegra, quiets the drivetrain and improves shifting performance.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Joe Bartoe
>> Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
>> email: j...@synapticcycles.com
>> website: www.synapticcycles.com
>> Twitter: @synapticcycles
>> phone: 949-374-6079
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:20:44 -0500
>> > Subject: Re: [RBW] GAH! It was the ______?!?
>> > From: stl...@gmail.com
>> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>>
>> >
>> > Begs the question--does the SRAM chain work better with a SRAM
>> drivetrain?
>> >
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Doug Way <jd-...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > > Hi Rex-
>> > >
>> > > Debbie and I have had a similar problem twice before.  Both times we
>> were
>> > > running an SRAM chain on a Shimano drivetrain (Debbie's old Atlantis
>> and my
>> > > Bike Friday).  Can't tell you why, but I fixed the problem by putting
>> a
>> > > Shimano chain in place of the SRAM.  In both cases, it was like yours,
>> > > drivetrain was noisy, we had lots of missed shifts, etc.  Deb's
>> Atlantis had
>> > > a Sugino crank, Shimano bar ends, and a Deore XT derailleur.  My BF
>> has a
>> > > Shimano 105 triple crank, bar end shifters, and 105 triple rear
>> derailleur.
>> > >
>> > > Since that time, I've read a few reports (VeloNews) from bike
>> mechanics
>> > > about having funny shifting problems and fixing them by making sure
>> they use
>> > > a Shimano chain with Shimano drive trains.
>> > >
>> > > Glad you fixed your problems.  No, you haven't lost your mind.
>> > >
>> > > Best regards,
>> > > Doug Way
>> > > Roadeo and Atlantis
>> > > Under 1.5 feet of snow in Boulder, CO
>> > >
>> > > On 12/22/11 5:35 PM, Rex Kerr wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Ever since building up my AHH I've been struggling with mis-shifts
>> and
>> > >> noise in the drivetrain, details of which I've posted here a few
>> times.  I
>> > >> tried everything I could think of...  even took it to Riv HQ to ask
>> for
>> > >> help... everything that'd make it better would only make it slightly
>> better,
>> > >> and half of that was probably placebo.  I'd tried everything that
>> came to
>> > >> mind, except for one simple thing [I'd already tried the complex
>> stuff
>> > >> first]... I didn't try this one simple thing because I didn't have a
>> > >> compatible one in my parts inventory [yes, I have a parts inventory
>> in my
>> > >> home shop] to try, and didn't want to take one off another bike...
>>  So, I
>> > >> suffered and suffered and lost the best ~1000 miles of my bike to
>> this pain
>> > >> [no idea exactly how many miles, no speedo]...  I really should have
>> just
>> > >> bought another part, since it's a wear part and all, but whatever...
>> > >>
>> > >> So, last night while out cleaning the drivetrain (since it'd gotten
>> > >> particularly bad on my last ride home, so bad that I almost wanted
>> to get
>> > >> off and walk home). I finally just did it...  I was hesitant,
>> because I
>> > >> didn't want to put a worn one and wear out my other newer parts, but
>> I
>> > >> measured the other bike's **CHAIN** for wear, and it was within
>> tolerance,
>> > >> so I swapped them... IT'S SILENT NOW!!!  I didn't miss a single
>> shift on the
>> > >> way to work this morning, and it was nearly silent!!!
>> > >>
>> > >> So.... question... how does a brand new PC971 chain perform so
>> poorly?
>> > >>  I've never had such problems with SRAM chains before, and always
>> preferred
>> > >> them over Shimano chains.  The one that I swapped was a KMC Z-9000
>> that I'd
>> > >> purchased a number of years ago from a shop that was selling new OE
>> pulls
>> > >> for $4 (I wish now that I'd taken their entire inventory!!  What a
>> deal!)...
>> > >>  what could be wrong that would make it perform so poorly?  It's
>> been a long
>> > >> time, so I probably can't get my money back from the LBS where I
>> bought it,
>> > >> but it'd be nice to know what to look for in the future!
>> > >>
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