I have read the book too and dont take it as describing that CF fails more often, its just that when it does it is catastrophic and sometimes deadly. Steel, Aluminum and Titanium all fail too but its just that when they do it is somewhat predicatable and less sudden, giving the rider time to compensate or dismount the bike before something dangerous happens. Also to Grant's point steel can be fixed if it fails while CF cannot. As i mentioned earlier I rode a "vintage" LOOK KG96 for a long time and had no issues but if there was an issue I would not have seen it until the bike collapsed under me, different from my old Peugot which developed a small then increasingly larger crack around the BB to let me know it was time to hang it up.
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:47 AM, blueride2 <rlh3...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think CF bikes have their place in the world of cycling, and I certainly > subscribe to "live and let live" as it applies to cycling. It should be > "ride and let ride". The point is ride what you have, and try to have a > good time doing it.Who can deny that riding in a pace-line at 20+ mph isn't > a hoot? Not me, that's for sure. A good lightweight CF bike makes this a > lot easier, than say a 26 pound steel bike.No, what is upsetting is the > near total dominance of CF bikes in the market today. If riders could own > just one bike, most of us, would be better served on a steel bike. More > versatile for sure. > > I'm in the middle of "Just Ride" and find it a very enjoyable and > interesting read. I do think Grant's off-base somewhat on the durability of > CF frames. Having owned several CF bikes over a 10 year span, I haven't had > a lick of trouble with any of them. No exploding or cracked frames, I even > crashed one of them. Look at the millions of CF forks out there. If there > was an issue with these forks self-destructing, the liability issue would > quickly drive manufacturers out-of-business. Face it, CF bikes are here to > stay. > A well designed CF frame will last a long time. Hell, at times, I even > ride CF wheels. Oh, the horror of it all! > > Having said that, I love steel bikes too. The ride quality just can't be > beat, except maybe for Ti bikes, but I've never ridden nor owned one so I > can't comment. > > Richard > > > > On Monday, July 2, 2012 4:02:53 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 12:59 -0700, Garth wrote: >> > >> > I wonder .... if everyone had the choice of their favorite Riv frame >> > with the exact same dimensions, in both steel and CF for about the >> > same price .... which would you choose ? >> >> Steel, without question. I have no interest whatever in carbon fiber. >> >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uTY3iqhZUHUJ. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.