Forgot to add that I *have*& broken a steel fork but it let me down
gently, I have never ridden crabon fibre.


On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Scott: Here's some solidarity for you. I have owned four Rivs (3
> customs, one Sam Hill) and still have the two later customs, both
> fixed gears, one with fat (32 mm) tires, dynolight and rack, t'other a
> stripper gofast (just did a brief hilly ride and it is FUN!). I do
> agree with the other poster that, after all, this is a Riv list and so
> a sort of focus is to be expected; but OTOH, there is more to Rivs
> than high bars, shellac and fancy luggage: for me, the essence of
> Rivendellianishness is not lugs, fancy paint or pretty luggage, but
> **fit** and **handling** -- every time (and I've bleated about this
> for, what, 15 years now -- I get back onto a Riv after riding some
> other bike that I've decided is very, very nice, I re-experience
> fit/handling Nirvana. All the better, sez I, if one of those Rivs is a
> low (ish -- I'm 57) bar'd, skinny tired, stripped down gofast that,
> dammit, climbs like nothing else!
>
> Every group focused on a more or less common goal, theory or value
> tends to become somewhat insular and exclusive and to "corral the
> wagons" against outside opinions. That is true of this list; OTOH,
> this list is, IMO, pretty mellow overall despite the occasional snark.
>
> Patrick "my next quasi Rivendellianish bike is to be a carbon fibre ss
> 29er with 500 gram crabon fiber fork" Moore -- if only I had the
> money!
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Scott Henry <ske...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nope, I don't personally know too many people on this list.  I have only met
>> a few so personally so I have to judge the group based upon what people here
>> post.
>>
>> I'll say that without a doubt, there are many bicycling fans here but
>> ,OVERALL, the group is very focused only on one type of bike.  Its just
>> weird to me that here and on the iBob list there are many people who only
>> consider bicycles that fit into the Riv stereotype.  Now on the old serrota
>> list (now The Paceline Forum) and even on velocipede salon they tend to
>> appriciate all bikes.  Those two groups most definately cater towards the
>> faster crowd but they also apreciate and enjoy the Riv type of slow, heavy,
>> comfort bicycles.
>>
>> As for what started my intial post, who here has had a carbon frame/fork
>> break, fail or bend?
>> OK, now who here has had a steel frame/fork break, bend or fail?
>>
>> As for me, I will keep riding all types of bicycles not just those of one
>> small type.
>>
>> Scott Henry
>> Dayton, OH
>> come see me
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I like bikes. It just seems around here that you can either drink the
>>> koolaid or enjoy bikes, very few of you can seemingly do both.
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> Its like you know us...oh wait, you don't.  So stop being so
>>> condescending.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Scott Henry <ske...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, If thats how you are measuring things, i've had two steel froks
>>>> bend.  One aluminum fork come unglued.
>>>> I've never had a carbon fork bend, break, snap or do anything other that
>>>> work 100% perfectly.
>>>>
>>>> I've had plenty of all three type going back to my first EMS fork in the
>>>> early 90s.
>>>>
>>>> Guess how stupid that is.
>>>>
>>>> I like bikes.  It just seems around here that you can either drink the
>>>> koolaid or enjoy bikes, very few of you can seemingly do both.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I make no apologies for my "divisiveness" about CF forks. Any product
>>>>> supporting the front wheel of a bicycle which snaps instead of bending is
>>>>> stupid.
>>>>>
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