i'm one of the lucky ones out west i think, but i gotta say it was pure
suffering making it across the valley between the cascades and the ocean
range in oregon. soooo hot, and even then just 95 degrees or so. i put my
head down and got through there in one day rather than stick around for
multiple days of that sickly too-hot feeling. i was wearing wool leggings
because i had gotten sunburned when i feel asleep on the rim of crater lake
the day before and wanted to cover up, one suffering for another!

e

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Agreed, shame it is an Ozone alert and pea soup humidity in NYC which made
> riding tonight crappy, wasnt worth taking pics since they would have been
> hazed over anyway. I remembered Grant's advice to not beat  yourself up
> about not riding as much as you might want and headed home halfway through
> to sit inside and not sweat everywhere, haha. Here is hoping for some rain
> to break this humidity!
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:28 AM, erik jensen <bicyclen...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> this thread started before i left to ride my atlantis across the cascades
>> and elsewhere, and i return to see it continues. that's funny!
>>
>> anyone who has read this list always knows that there are always going to
>> be people who pop in to troll or otherwise; posts of the sort "look at me,
>> i like ALL bikes why don't you you ignoramus."
>>
>> But it doesn't really work that way, this is a place where people who
>> want to talk about lugged bikes will. Like every place on the internet,
>> people will always want to come in and yell about how that place doesn't
>> really get it, as we may be tempted to otherwise. I subscribe, as there are
>> also some really good ride reports that come up, but I bit my keyboarding
>> tongue a lot about a whole variety of things. I think people like to make
>> up stories about so and so having ideology x, y or z, because it's just
>> easier that way. It happens on this list, it happens to all sorts of people
>> with any sort of recognition, it's terribly easy and terribly
>> boring--human, all too human, right?
>>
>> I really wish the biggest problem worth discussion was that us mean
>> rivendell list members were dissuading significant portions of the public
>> from riding bicycles made of carbon fiber, but I bet you can count the
>> number of times that happens every year without trying too hard. That said,
>> the rhetoric is really bias the other way. This isn't a debate between two
>> equal sides in other words, and so don't construe peoples energy and love
>> of a niche group to be conflated with koolaid or ideology as much as it is
>> with embracing and pursuing an approach they probably have very little of
>> in the place they live. I lived in Omaha, NE, for some time--how many
>> rivendells are there? I know of 2, maybe?
>>
>> I recommend anyone engaged by a two week long argument on the internet
>> step outside and remember we live on a fragile rock hurtling through the
>> enormity of an infinite cosmos.
>>
>> It's not what you have or say, but it's what you do.
>>
>> What have all the posters in this thread been doing? I'd much rather hear
>> about that.
>>
>> Ride on,
>>
>> erik
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Scott Henry <ske...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have no problems talking about Rivs, I do it routinely.
>>> I have a problem talking bad about carbon because someone told you not
>>> to like it.
>>>
>>> A bike is a bike.  Ride them all.   Don't talk anyone out of riding
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> And personally, I like obnoxious women.
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Kelly <tkslee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not sure where you got slow comfort bikes from.
>>>>
>>>> As for talking about rivs.. It is the Rivendell group ...  So do you
>>>> complain on the Ford group that they don't like Chevys.  Probably.. :)
>>>>
>>>> Actually I have many bikes in the garage... Steel aluminum, and carbon.
>>>>
>>>> I've had two carbon frames break, one carbon fork, two carbon stems,
>>>> one seat post break.
>>>>
>>>> Haven't broke the others yet
>>>>
>>>> I am not afraid to ride carbon , just not fond of the way it fails.
>>>>
>>>> I'm an obnoxious opinionated jerk.. And blame it on women in general..
>>>> What's your excuse.
>>>>
>>>> Kelly
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