I've been using friction shifting with nine speed on one bike.  With
caveats, it's upright bars and a ca. 1988 Shimano XT thumb shifter.  With
that shifter 9 speeds doesn't seem to be an issue.  It's a 12-36 paired
with a 39t front and using a regular Deore long cage derailleur.

Have not had an problems since setting it up.  Also don't seem to
experience ghost shifting, but maybe because I'm not that strong of a rider.

Then again, as this is on a non-Rivendell bike, my observation is off topic

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Eric Daume <ericda...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This dearth of 8 speed cassettes had me momentarily worried, until I saw
> it wasn't so.  For instance, here's a range of 12-21 thru 13-26:
>
>
> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=12017&category=42
>
> in addition to all the usual 11-something.
>
> Which is comforting, because 8 speed is the sweet spot for me.
>
> Eric Daume
> Dublin, OH
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The "commercial fate" of 7 speed is the chrome cassettes are now
>> unavailable, but the black ones are all still available.  Not so pretty,
>> but functionally just as good.  That's not the case with 8: in the past
>> 2 or 3 years virtually all the 8 speed combinations have gone.  Only
>> 11-x are still in available, and for me 11 only makes sense if you have
>> a 20" wheel.
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