Amen. Marjorie Marjorie E. Bloss 2827 West Gregory Street Chicago, IL 60625 USA 1-773-878-4008 1-773-519-4009 (mobile) marjorie_bl...@msn.com<mailto:marjorie_bl...@msn.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia Sayre-McCoy<mailto:p...@uchicago.edu> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 2.3.1.6 Introductory words
John, our thoughts are with you. May this situation be quickly and safely resolved. Keep your head down. Pat Patricia Sayre-McCoy Head, Law Cataloging and Serials D'Angelo Law Library University of Chicago 773-702-9620 p...@uchicago.edu<mailto:p...@uchicago.edu> -----Original Message----- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of John Hostage Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 1:40 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca<mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 2.3.1.6 Introductory words Heidrun, I wouldn't consider "Three books of" to be an introductory phrase. "Here begynneth a lytell treatyse called" might more easily be considered such a phrase, but I don't think it was intended by RDA 2.3.1.6. LCCN 22008862 was cataloged in 1922, so it's not an example of AACR2 cataloging, much less RDA. Consider examples in 6.2.3.5, 18.5.1.3 (printer), 21.5.1.3 (Worde), where such phrases are included in titles proper. However, such phrases may be omitted from the *preferred title* if the work has become known by a shorter title (6.2.2.4). That's what was done in determining the uniform title on 22008862. "Sheltering in place" in Watertown, Massachusetts ... ------------------------------------------ John Hostage Authorities and Database Integrity Librarian Harvard Library--Information and Technical Services Langdell Hall 194 Harvard Law School Library Cambridge, MA 02138 host...@law.harvard.edu<mailto:host...@law.harvard.edu> +(1)(617) 495-3974 (voice) +(1)(617) 496-4409 (fax) ________________________________________ From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] on behalf of Heidrun Wiesenmüller [wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 13:53 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: [RDA-L] 2.3.1.6 Introductory words The examples given in 2.3.1.6 for introductory words (not to be transcribed as part of a title) all seem to be from the area of audiovisual and electronic resources (e.g. "Disney presents"). I can see that the rule can be useful here. But I'm not so sure about cases like these: http://lccn.loc.gov/22008862<http://lccn.loc.gov/22008862> http://lccn.loc.gov/92033147<http://lccn.loc.gov/92033147> I feel that "Here begynneth a lytell treatyse called" and "Three books of" are also introductory words, and therefore would have to be left out of the title proper of the manifestation, if we take RDA seriously. Mind, I'm not saying that this would be a good idea. And I'm very happy to see that LC hasn't done it, although I find it's not a new rule (see AACR2 1.1.B1). But now I wonder: Is this due to the fact that LC doesn't use RDA (and before that, AACR2) for early printed books in the first place? LC-PCC PS for 0.2 says they use DCRM(B) instead, which unfortunately I don't know much about. Or am I on the wrong track altogether, and these phrases are no "introductory words" at all? Heidrun -- --------------------- Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A. Stuttgart Media University Faculty of Information and Communication Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, Germany www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi<http://www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi>
