John,
"Here begynneth a lytell treatyse called" might more easily be considered such
a phrase, but I don't think it was intended by RDA 2.3.1.6.
It's good to hear that. Come to think of it, else there would probably
already have been an alternative rule here for early printed books.
Still, I find thje whole thing rather problematic. I think it very
likely that many errors will happen here. If you've got a "Here
begynneth" example in hand, and you only look at the text of 2.3.1.6, I
believe many people will (like Tony and me) come to the conclusion that
"Here begynneth" must be left out of the title of the manifestation.
This will be especially difficult for people who are not very familiar
with Anglo-American cataloging or are completely new to the profession.
So I wonder whether there shouldn't be at least some more information
here (perhaps an LC-PCC PS?).
LCCN 22008862 was cataloged in 1922, so it's not an example of AACR2
cataloging, much less RDA.
Indeed, a very bad example. By the way: Can I see the date somewhere in
the record (as presented in LC's catalog)? I couldn't find where this
information is stored in MARC.
Consider examples in 6.2.3.5, 18.5.1.3 (printer), 21.5.1.3 (Worde), where such
phrases are included in titles proper.
Sometimes I'm really impressed with RDA. I hadn't realized there are
quite a number of "Here begynneth" examples in the text. I think that
6.2.3.5 doesn't help, though, as this is an example on the work level
(and in this case, only for a variant title; "Here begynneth" has been
left out of the preferred title for the work). But the other examples
you mention are certainly proof that RDA wants us to include this bit in
the title proper on the manifestation level.
Heidrun
PS: I'm very relieved to hear that things have calmed down again in
Watertown.
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Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A.
Stuttgart Media University
Faculty of Information and Communication
Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, Germany
www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi
