> OR, to simplify things further, and perhaps even better yet, we should get rid > of the “(other than solely publishing)” instruction at 2.8.4.4 and just apply the > ‘principle of representation’ (0.4.3.4) to ‘put down what we see’ for publisher > data also.
Deborah, thanks for pointing it out. I actually thought about that. But my concern is that the element title is Publisher's Name. We transcribe a publisher's name in the form as it appears on the source (the representation principle). I am not sure if the statement of function is supposed to be a part of a publisher's name. I do not mind the removal of "other than solely publishing" in instruction at 2.8.4.4. But it seems to be a big difference :) At least the relevant instructions in the three statements are not consistent. Thanks, Joan Wang On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Deborah Fritz <debo...@marcofquality.com>wrote: > This is a display issue that should be handled by the ILS setup.**** > > ** ** > > If the distributor information is displayed in a single line, along with > the publisher, etc. information, as ISBD requires, then it is logical to > retain the words or phrases indicating functions other than publishing, as > per AACR:**** > > ** ** > > 260 $a Boulder : $b East European Monographs ; $a New York : $b > Distributed by Columbia University Press, $c 2010.**** > > *Displays as:* > > Publication, etc.: Boulder : East European Monographs ; New York : > Distributed by Columbia University Press, 2010.**** > > ** ** > > If the distributor information is in a separate MARC field (264_2) and is > therefore not displayed in a single line, then there should not be any > point in including the ‘Distributed by’ wording, since the ILS can be set > up to display the separate field labeled according to the second indicator: > **** > > ** ** > > 264 1 $a London ; $a New York : $b I.B. Tauris, $c 2012.**** > > 264 2 $a New York : $b Distributed in the United States and Canada > exclusively by Palgrave Macmillan, $c [2012]**** > > *Displays as:* > > Publication: London ; New York : I.B. Tauris, 2012.**** > > Distribution: New York : Distributed in the United States and Canada > exclusively by Palgrave Macmillan, [2012]**** > > ** ** > > The only reason for not displaying the field label for separate 264, is to > try to make it look like ISBD:**** > > ** ** > > *Displays as:* > > Publication: London ; New York : I.B. Tauris, 2012.**** > > New York : Distributed in the United States and > Canada exclusively by Palgrave Macmillan, [2012]**** > > ** ** > > But this doesn’t display as per ISBD anyway, so it does seem that it might > be time to treat these statements as separate and distinct, in which case I > agree that the RDA instructions could be changed for both Distribution and > Manufacture, with the addition of “(other than solely distributing)” and > “(other than solely manufacturing)”**** > > ** ** > > OR, to simplify things further, and perhaps even better yet, we should get > rid of the “(other than solely publishing)” instruction at 2.8.4.4 and > just apply the ‘principle of representation’ (0.4.3.4) to ‘put down what > we see’ for publisher data also.**** > > ** ** > > Deborah**** > > ** ** > > P.S. It is good to know about A.7B1 after all these years (how did I miss > that??) but I still wonder what the rationale was for this capitalization, > given the way it was meant to be displayed, in a string.**** > > ** ** > > - - - - - - - - **** > > Deborah Fritz**** > > TMQ, Inc.**** > > debo...@marcofquality.com**** > > www.marcofquality.com**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *rball...@frontier.com > *Sent:* Thursday, August 08, 2013 9:23 AM > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Capitalization in 2.9.4.4**** > > ** ** > > Joan, I disagree with your proposed rule change only because, unless one's > local system is set up to specifically display something to the user that > indicates that they are seeing a distribution statement (based on indicator > 2), the user might wonder why there are two separate statements with no > seeming difference. If the "distributed by" statement is included in $b of > the 264, the role of the distributor is clear.**** > > **** > > Thanks,**** > > **** > > Kevin Roe**** > > Supervisor, Media Processing**** > > Fort Wayne Community Schools**** > > Fort Wayne, IN 46802**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Joan Wang <jw...@illinoisheartland.org> > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Sent:* Thursday, August 8, 2013 8:53 AM > *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Capitalization in 2.9.4.4**** > > ** ** > > I look at corresponding examples in AACR2, they are capitalized. **** > > Also, the following examples in RDA 2.9.4.4 are misleading. The recording > or supplying of the function, such as distributed by and [distributor], is > not necessary in RDA records. The second indicator 2 of 264 fields already > indicates its function. **** > > ** ** > > *Distributed by **Independent Publishers Group***** > > *Distribution by**: MapArt Publishing Corporation ***** > > *Distributed by **Coach House Records Ltd.***** > > * > Voluntary Committee on Overseas Aid & Development [distributor] > Guild Sound and Vision [distributor]* > > The rule should be changed like this: > > 2.9.4.4 Record words or phrases indicating the function (other than > solely distributing) performed by a person, family, or corporate body as > they appear on the source of information.**** > > My opinion!**** > > ** ** > > Thanks, **** > > Joan Wang**** > > Illinois Heartland Library System**** > > ** ** > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller < > wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de> wrote:**** > > It beats me why the examples in 2.9.4.4 (and other similar rules, e.g. > 2.10.4.4) are all capitalized, e.g.: > Distributed by New York Graphic Society > Sold by Longman > > I cannot find any justification for this in appendix A. It's certainly not > mentioned among the elements where the first word must always be > capitalized. > > Corresponding examples in the ISBD consolidated (4.2.5) aren't > capitalized, e.g.: > distributed by Harvard University Press > to be sold by Jas. Gardner > > So, is there something I've overlooked, or is this a mistake in RDA? > > Heidrun > > -- > --------------------- > Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A. > Stuttgart Media University > Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, Germany > www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi**** > > > > > -- **** > > Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. > Cataloger -- CMC**** > > Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) > 6725 Goshen Road > Edwardsville, IL 62025 > 618.656.3216x409 > 618.656.9401Fax**** > > ** ** > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
