Thanks you Joan and everyone... Shahrzad
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:37 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date No, only for the first sub-field. I hope that I am right :-) On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Khosrowpour, Shahrzad <shahrzad.khosrowp...@colostate-pueblo.edu<mailto:shahrzad.khosrowp...@colostate-pueblo.edu>> wrote: Joan, Is it the same for Publisher & Date? Thanks so much -- Shahrzad From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>] On Behalf Of Joan Wang Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:29 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date It is possible to supply a probable county, like United States? Also,Place (upper-cased) not place :-) On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Khosrowpour, Shahrzad <shahrzad.khosrowp...@colostate-pueblo.edu<mailto:shahrzad.khosrowp...@colostate-pueblo.edu>> wrote: Then my record will have: $a [place of publication not identified] : $b [publisher not identified], $c [date of publication not identified] And FF will read uuuu for the 1st date? Thanks-- Shahrzad -----Original Message----- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:09 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date Joan, The between dates should have a question mark at the end according to RDA. Adam Schiff University of Washington Libraries On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Joan Wang wrote: > Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:05:22 -0500 > From: Joan Wang > <jw...@illinoisheartland.org<mailto:jw...@illinoisheartland.org>> > Reply-To: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > <RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>> > To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> > Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date > > a) probable range of years > > *Example:* 264* 1* $a ... : $b ... , $c [between 2000 and 2004] > > b) known earliest and/or latest possible date > > *Example:* 264* 1* $a ... : $b ... , $c [not after August 21, 2003] > > c) Supply [date of publication not identified] if no date identified > > LC Policy: supply a date of publication if possible, rather than give > [date of publication not identified] > > :-) > > > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Khosrowpour, Shahrzad < > shahrzad.khosrowp...@colostate-pueblo.edu<mailto:shahrzad.khosrowp...@colostate-pueblo.edu>> > wrote: > >> Could someone give an example for that, please? **** >> >> ** ** >> >> I have a book that doesn't have any information on date, publication, >> manufacture, distribution, anything. Then how and in which field I >> can indicate the information is taken from.... **** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> Thanks-Shahrzad**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Shahrzad Khosrowpour, **** >> >> Assistant Professor of Library Services **** >> >> Cataloging/Metadata Librarian**** >> >> Colorado State University-Pueblo**** >> >> **** >> >> *shahrzad.khosrowp...@colostate-pueblo.edu<mailto:shahrzad.khosrowp...@colostate-pueblo.edu>* >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and >> Access >> [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>] >> *On Behalf Of *JSC >> Secretary >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:55 AM >> *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> >> *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Gary, >> >> If supplying a date per 1.9.2 is not possible, then you can apply the >> 2nd paragraph of 2.8.6.6<http://2.8.6.6>: >> >> "If an approximate date of publication for a single-part resource >> cannot reasonably be determined, record *date of publication not identified*. >> Indicate that the information was taken from a source outside the >> resource itself (see 2.2.4)." >> >> Judy Kuhagen >> JSC Secretary >> >> **** >> >> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller < >> wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de<mailto:wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de>> >> wrote:**** >> >> Gary, >> >> The rules which you need can be found in 1.9.2 (Supplied date). Under >> 1.9.2.4 (Probable range of years) there are examples like this: >> >> [between 1800 and 1899?] >> [between 1400 and 1600?] >> >> In 2.8.6.6, there is a reference to 1.9.2. >> >> Heidrun**** >> >> >> >> >> >> On 13.08.2013 21:19, Gary Oliver wrote:**** >> >> I have searched the Toolkit and can not locate instructions for a >> situation like this one. If a manifestation has no date of any kind, >> how is that recorded? There are no dates associated with the author, >> so I do not have either an earliest or latest possible year. I would >> say that based on the condition of the piece, I am able to assume a >> century. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Gary Oliver >> Abilene Christian University**** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- >> --------------------- >> Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A. >> Stuttgart Media University >> Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, Germany >> www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi****<http://www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi****> >> >> ** ** >> > > > > -- > Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. > Cataloger -- CMC > Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) > 6725 Goshen Road > Edwardsville, IL 62025 > 618.656.3216x409<tel:618.656.3216x409> > 618.656.9401Fax > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 Seattle, WA 98195-2900 (206) 543-8409<tel:%28206%29%20543-8409> (206) 685-8782<tel:%28206%29%20685-8782> fax asch...@u.washington.edu<mailto:asch...@u.washington.edu> http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409<tel:618.656.3216x409> 618.656.9401Fax -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
