Thanks, I'd love to see some photos if you have them online somewhere. I was impressed by your multi-breaker bypass interlock. Too bad no OEM can think it through like that.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 12:51 PM William Miller via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Kirk: > > > > I feel your pain. This is a big problem that we discovered with the first > GSLC we installed. We ordered it prewired and it was a mess. We broke the > tab off of one of the AC breakers by too much wire stress. We had to come > up with a work-around for this problem. I will describe it below in hopes > you find some use for this procedure. > > > > You can skip installing AC breakers in the GSLC and that frees up a lot of > room. To make this work you need to supply an outboard breaker panel for > Generator fed circuits and another for Inverter fed circuits. The AC leads > run straight through the GSLC without landing. You can remove all of the > AC buss bars. > > > > If you want bypass capabilities you need to provide for this in the > inverter fed-panel. Most breaker manufacturers provide interlocks for two > breakers. If you want more interlock capabilities you need to make a > custom interlock. Let me know if you want more information on that process. > > > > For the PV leads, we cut off the bottom tab that holds the dead front and > replace it with a hinge. We lower the dead-front for wiring. The PV leads > all come up the back of the dead-front and hinge at the bottom. See > attached photo. > > > > I hope this information helps. The Radian is a good product in my opinion > and it is worth the effort to get around the limitation. > > > > William Miller > > > > Miller Solar > > 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 > > 805-438-5600 > > www.millersolar.com > > CA Lic. 773985 > > > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On > Behalf Of *Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches > *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2022 8:30 AM > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Cc:* Kirk Herander > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark install > > > > I feel the same way about the Outback Radian GSLC box, once it's fully > wired there's no room whatsoever, and sometimes you have to remove > breakers and layers of wiring to re-access things for debug. Don't know how > it meets code and ETL approval for wire space. > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 11:20 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > This problem is not limited to one manufacturer. One example is the > Enphase smart controller. While the small holes are big enough for #6 > ground and neutral, you have to strip the wires perfectly and have the hand > of a heart surgeon to get them in there. And conduit entry is a royal pain > because the enclosure is tapered on the bottom and sides. > > > > Fortunately, all of these manufacturers seem to be making strides to make > the roof installation easier. A little more attention to the electrical > enclosures would be appreciated. > > > > Jason Szumlanski > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2022, 10:30 AM Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > We have done one Solark installation & I was shocked as to the lack of > ground wire landing terminals & space. We added a 12126 metal box below to > ease the # of entrances to two 11/4”. > > I jumpered a # 8 to a second ground bar to allow for additional landing > locations. I called Solark to question this & the response to the question > was “yeah we have heard this from other installers “. > End of call. > > Dana Orzel > > C: 208.721.7003 > > E- d...@solarwork.com > > > > On Apr 13, 2022, at 8:21 PM, Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > Ron > > > > The Sol-Ark has two MPPT channels and has two separate landing spots for > each MPPT channels. Each landing pair needs matching strings. 8 AWG wire > barely fits so the Sol-Ark PV terminals so they may only be rated for > 10AWG. > > > > I’m assuming you have a ground array The most common stringing method > would be to use a trench with conduit and THHN wire. You could also sleeve > a direct-burial cable into the ground. Calculate the voltage drop over the > distance to make sure 10AWG is adequate. If not, then make a junction, like > a MidNite or Outback combiner or an IMO switch at the array to get up the > right wire size, with an added MidNite Surge Protector or EMP shield > device. If it’s a long distance (larger wire size), add another combiner at > the inverter building entrance to get back to 10 AWG. > > > > https://practicalpreppers.com/product/imo-4-pole-16-amp-dc-disconnect/ > > > > Also, The Sol-Ark sizing guide helps with string calculations. > > > > https://www.sol-ark.com/solar-panel-sizing/SolarPanelSizing.html > > > > Contact me off list with additional questions. > > > > > > Maverick Brown > Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006 > *Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.* > > * • Solar Commander Remote Power* > > > * • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection *maver...@mavericksolar.com > 512-460-9825 > > > > > > On Apr 12, 2022, at 9:42 PM, Ron Young via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > Hi Wrenches, trying to wrap my head around a first time Sol-Ark install. > Because the max DC voltage is 500v at 18a and the PV I’m using is 40v DC > each I will have to create three strings each 480v. What would be the best > choice for a home run wire? I’ve always used smaller strings with micro > inverters, a combiner at the array and a single Teck home run cable but the > string inverter presents a different scenario and it looks like I’ll need > to use three home run cables, one for each string. > > > > Ron Young > > > > earthRight Products - Solareagle.com > Alternative Energy Solutions ~ Renewable Energy Products > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. 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