UGH! Having been a 4D guy myself, I wouldn't dream of going back. Their core language is stuck in the middle ages.
If its database centric client server work and if only working on Windows, I cannot think of a better toolset than PowerBuilder. Their Datawindows kick ass. Unfortunately the core oo language hasn't kept up with the times, and it is still used in interpreted mode = although these days - for most IT uses this really isnt an issue thanks to todays CPU speeds. In my mind, the only missing from RB being a perfect IT RAD client-server or web DB tool is something equivalent to DataWindows. On 5/1/07 08:15, "Dietmar Harms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about 4th Dimension/4D Server for databases (www.4d.com) as > alternative? REALbasic has a lot of advantages, but I didn't find a > replacement for the fully programmable plug-ins 4D Write (text > processor) and 4D Draw (freely placing and moving any objects, > including database fields, by language AND by the user). > > Best, Dietmar > > > > Am 05.01.2007 um 08:47 schrieb Stefan: > >> >> Am 05.01.2007 um 08:32 schrieb Ryan Dary: >> >>> There is a group of us out there that is unhappy with REALbasic >>> and would turn to another product immediately if it just offered >>> that one or two things that we're using from REALbasic. What is >>> that one piece for you? >> >> I developed a relatively big library, which allows to develop DB >> apps quite fast. >> The lib is a kind of an alternate db bindings lib for RB. >> Additionally, the lib >> contains other stuff, like a NotificationCenter, LinceseManagement, >> StandardEvents >> for various controls. The lib is the result of 2 years work - and a >> spin-off of several >> other projects. >> >> Well, Cocoa's CoreData Bindings approach is fast too, but I prefer >> to be able to >> deploy to different platforms, not only OS X - at least >> potentially. If Apple would >> decide to port Cocoa to Windows finally, I's switch back. >> >> I checked QT, but decided against it. C++ is too expensive for my >> typical tools. >> I checked Java, but decided against it. Roughly 2-3 years ago, as I >> started RB, >> a Java prototype for a document management solution was far too >> slow and required >> far too much resources [RAM]. Today, this might not be a problem >> anymore. >> >> For now - despite all the bugs and problems - RB allows to develop >> smaller tools >> and helpers quite fast. >> >> E.g., Server Scout is a 2007/1 build: >> >> http://www.turingart.com/apacheServerWatcher_lan__en.htm >> http://www.turingart.com/downloads/ServerScoutX.zip [UB] >> >> Without having developed the above mentioned lib, I would probably >> re-start evaluating >> alternatives. > > > _______________________________________________ > Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: > <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> > > Search the archives of this list here: > <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> > _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives of this list here: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html>
