On 2007-05-14, at 17:43, Paul Levine wrote:

>
> On May 14, 2007, at 2:42 AM, Sven E Olsson wrote:
>
>
>>
>> 1 - The Unified Toolbar, you know the issues with that.
>
> If the problem is that the window turns white you can easily cover up
> certain parts with controls, change the background color of the
> window in the properties pane or paint the aqua pattern yourself in
> parts that are not covered by your window. If you were trying to
> duplicate Mail's interface you wouldn't have any problem since
> controls cover the entire window.


Yes, I have self recommended that fix, but "Mail" was just an  
example, and all windows do not are not always covered by some control.



>
>
>> 2 - I can't select select multiple List-box rows in an RB List-box.
>
> Can you elaborate more on this? You are probably referring to
> something more complex than just changing the listbox's selection  
> type.

Sorry, that should be cools..

>
>> 3 - REALbasic have no inbuilt Splitter.
>
> This is so easily done in RB anyways or with plenty of really good
> open source controls.

Yes, therefore I think RS could add one as a new feature.


>
>> 4 - The "Mail-boxes" List-box to the left, In RB you must use
>> Composite window, and then we know about all the random features.
>
> I haven't found any problems with composite windows behaving in
> unexpected ways. Composite windows are different than normal windows
> in the way they refresh and draw themselves so you just have to do
> things differently. It doesn't necessarily mean there are bugs with
> Composite windows. I almost always use composite windows now.


I have a lot, scroll-bars that not be activated, composite window  
that use a huge of CPU, some new "feature" in every release..


>
>> 5 - The REALbasic Toolbar, have no "Customize Toolbar"
>> Thats just 5 examples..
>>
>
> This can be done in RB with the HIToolbar at http://www.thezaz.com/
> opensource/realbasic/macosx/toolbar/ and could probably be added to
> the existing RB toolbars. However, I would like to see this included
> in RB's toolbar by default as well.


Me too...

>
>
>>>
>>> Are you saying that you want RS to include controls like a built in
>>> splitter even though there are so many open source ones available?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> Fair enough, but the fact is you can do this in RB easily.

Then perhaps also RS could do that?

>
>>
>>> Other than that, all of the existing UI elements in Mail can be
>>> duplicated easily in RB using just what RB provides.
>>
>> Both NO and Yes, It some depending on what you mean with easy. As I
>> wrote about select multiple rows. Ok that is possible to write self,
>> and it is with all other code.
>
> Can you be more specific about this selecting multiple rows issue? I
> don't know what the problem is with that.

Sorry, I meant columns

>
> I still do not see anything that can not be done all in RB code
> without any plugins and without any significant bugs caused by RB.

I still see some that is missing.. here is some:
1 - Spell checker
2 - Color Picker (that not crash)

Some Carbon things..
3 - Slider with "orientation" NONE
4 - Segment View
5 - Help button
6 - Search Field
7 - Mixed Radio button ( normal, small, mini )
8 - Mixed Check box ( normal, small, mini )
9 - EditField and List-box with scroll bar  (normal, small)

Thats just some...


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Sven E


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