that it would be replaced before this much momentum gathered but I
guess, by now, everyone has become attached to it.

Again, none of what I say comes from inside information, I don't know
anyone beyond ordinary dev level at Adobe, but I am pretty sure that
something like this WILL crop up and it will happen at a particularly
bad time for the project.

Don't forget, although they haven't said much publicly, Adobe take any
threat to their bottom line very, very seriously and have war-gamed
all of this stuff.

Donnacha

On 8/21/07, Donnacha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> RE: Trademarks
>
> To clarify what I meant, this issue has come up in discussion with
> some very switched on people but not, I have to stress, anyone in
> Adobe itself.  The context was people in fairly high positions,
> discussing the tricky problem, faced by many proprietary software
> makers, of how to counter OSS competition without provoking a
> publicity backlash; Adobe/Red5 came up as a perfect case study.
>
> There was total agreement that the Red5 developers have been
> meticulous in ensuring that they didn't infringe Adobe's IP but the
> name itself was identified as their Achilles heal, not necessarily
> because it infringes a trademark or servicemark, although it may, but
> because it comes close enough to justify a court case.
>
> The case of a claimant against Red5 would not be strong enough to
> guarantee a win and, therefore, would not be worth taking UNLESS a
> third party anonymously funded the legal costs as a distraction/FUD
> tactic, just as Microsoft part-funded SCO's anti-Linux actions.  This
> form of anonymous funding is 100% legal and very common practice among
> American corporations.
>
> In the case of targeting OSS projects, the presumption is that no
> formal structure is in place to fund a defense and that the costs will
> be borne by the lead developers with no prospect, in this type of
> action, of re-couping their costs even if they win - each side eats
> their own costs.
>
> This expensive process massively favors corporations and the vast
> majority of these disputes never make it to court, never come to
> public attention.
>
> As any such action would be a once-off opportunity and would be held
> in reserve until it can be used to maximum effect, probably after the
> project goes 1.0 and a lot of momentum has built up behind the
> disputed name - being forced to change it at that point would be a
> serious set-back.
>
> When the project was initially launched, I presumed that Red5 was
> temporary title, a cute Star Wars reference that would soon be
> replaced with a better name, one for which the .com was still
> available.  I never expected it would last this long, I figured that a
>

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