Correct me if I am still wrong, but my understanding was that RHL
offered all the features of AS but without the convenient package.  The
items would have to be individually installed as needed. 

Buck

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rodolfo J. Paiz
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 1:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Fedora


At 11:01 9/23/2003, you wrote:
>I think that the real problem is that we once had available the 
>download of the grand package and updates for $60.00 and now we can 
>only get a part of the package and updates for $349.
>
>Sticker shock to those of us used to free.

No, you're mixing things here (and I don't see why you feel you only get

"part of the package" with RHEL-ES). Here are the two real options you
have 
now (from what we know), and a third just to show it doesn't belong with

the real two options:

         1. You had the free package available for, well, free, and Red
Hat 
did not provide automatic updates. However, you _could_ get those using 
other tools like yum, current, and apt-get. Fedora will still be free, 
still downloadable, _and_ the community will ensure that apt-get, yum,
and 
current work well. Gained a little, lost nothing.

         2. You could get auto updates from Red Hat for $60/year. Now
you 
can get auto updates from Fedora for $0/year. Gained a savings of
$60/year, 
lost nothing (just changed the command you run from "up2date" to
"apt-get" 
or something else). Red Hat loses here, not you.

The one that shouldn't be mixed in:

         3. You could move to an entirely different product which is
RHEL, 
with entirely different pricing, capabilities, and support. Gain or loss
is 
irrelevant, since this option should not be compared to RHL/Fedora
anyway. 
Windows Advanced Server, Oracle Enterprise, even Acura/Honda provide 
comparisons... RHEL is a different animal, and the fact that it costs
more 
makes no difference since, if you really needed it, you would have
bought 
it anyway even if there had been an RHL 10.


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