My answer you quoted below are in response to a statement that WS is only $179 with support and ES is $349 with support. I corrected him by saying that the prices with support are $299 for WS and $799 for ES.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Estabrooks Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fedora On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:31:20 -0400 "Buck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Support???? What support? The products you listed are only the > product and up2date for 1 year! > > The cost of these two products is actually $799 and $299 respectively. > Look again my friend. > Actually you're wrong Buck. Go look. We're not talking about telephone suport. Nobody was getting telephone support for $60 dollars a year. Buck. Please, tell me what it is that you're willing to pay for that is _not_ provided by Fedora? More importantly tell me what it is in the Enterprise options you're not willing to pay for? They have to decide their business plan for themselves and their shareholders. I think they're making good decisions. RedHat is NOT going to drop their Enterprise prices down. There is a market willing to pay those prices and recognise the VALUE. i'd be impressed if someone here can articulate what they're willing to pay for above Fedora and not willing to pay for (ie. can be removed) from the Enterprise offerings. Sean. I'll try to articulate. I don't like the fact that each and every computer needs to be "licensed" (for a comparative term). If I could buy ES for $200 and copy it to my hearts delight I would have no arguments, probably little argument over the $350, but in order to buy it you have to sign a contract agreeing not to distribute the software to others or to install it on more than one computer. If you do you are in violation of their agreement. (How did I do?) Clarifying another statement. I was told by the salesman on the phone the following paraphrase "Red Hat Linux contains everything that is in Red Hat Enterprise AS, it is just packaged differently." WS and ES are subsets of the AS and do not contain everything in AS therefore my assumption is that for one to purchase a copy of ES for $349, one only gets a subset of what RHL 9 has and one year of Up2Date. That is why I say that the cost jumped from $60.00 to $349 for less than we were getting. I agree that there may be another way to get the updates without paying the $60 and there always has been. The $60 was just a convenience fee and helped support RH in the long run. I certainly feel we should do what we can to support Red Hat and the developers. I can't help with the code, but I can help support RH a little. I can't afford to buy the AS package even if I had a buyer for it. Normally I would sell one package to the client and keep a copy for myself to help me learn and support it. This is the same problem I have with MS. I don't get a free copy of MS Server and it's illegal to copy. Something else that comes to mind is that Red Hat eliminated several packages available with support in lew of this current product line. While I don't remember all the details, they were more affordable. Money is relative. Bill Gates might spend $10,000 per machine to have a computer in each room of his house. Even though my house is much smaller, that same expense would exceed the value of my house if I did that. As far as what is available on Fedora, we can only speculate. Right now Fedora doesn't exist (if that's the name of the software, I know the project exists), until it does, the only thing we have is Red Hat 9 and RHEL. IF the salesman told me correctly, I have most, if not all of the items in AS already. I just need to learn how to install and use them. After thinking about this, I think I finally figured out what I have actually lost: my plans to use RH and support it. I will still use RH (9) and I'll just have to re-evaluate how I will support it. It just wont be as convenient as originally planned. Buck -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
