On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 21:35, Jerry Winegarden wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Will Standley wrote: > > > Does Redhat keep a searchable archive of the email list? > > http://www.prairienet.org/redhat > > (took over from moongroup.com) >
OK, I have been waiting to hear back from David about posting his replies to the list but since this has come up and there is nothing bad there anyway, I will let you all know what I have found. Background: Charles Galpin and David Talkington did a magnificent job IMNSOHO putting together the archives at prairienet after Chuck Mead at moongroup punted due to too much effort. My understanding is that there was a problem back in April having to do with creating directories or something and David simply did not have the time to wade into it and Charles did not have access to the box any more. Last week I contacted them when someone posted that the archives had not been updated and after a couple of days we left it at this ( I hope you can follow the thread): On Sat, 2002-10-12 at 21:43, Charles Galpin wrote: > On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, David Talkington wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Bret Hughes wrote: > > >With RHl 8.0 out the list is being inundated with newbies like I have > > >never seen in the 3 or 4 years that I have been subscribed. The result > > >has been short tempers and the typical RTFM you dumbshit sort of > > >replies. Not very helpful. > > > > I know. That's why I left. My mother taught me that if you don't have > > something nice to say, then shut up. I began to feel that my irritation > > would end up harming 'the movement' to a far greater extent than my > > advice would help it. The list has members with far greater skill and > > patience than mine. > > > > About the lists ... after considering the situation, I'm going to have > > to cut my losses, guys, I'm sorry. I understand the need, but while > > both Charles and I devoted considerable resources to the project, it > > failed to attract any donations, even when it worked. Prairienet has > > asked that the project at least draw a few dollars for storage and > > maintenance, and even before April (the last month that it was current), > > it didn't look like that was going to happen. Add to that the competing > > priorities I now have, and I just don't think I'm the guy to carry the > > torch, I'm sorry. > > > > Red Hat is no longer a startup. I wish them the best, but I think it's > > time they took responsibility for this portion of the infrastructure > > that the community uses to support their product. > > > > That's where I stand. Charles, your thoughts? > > I'm too busy to commit to doing anything about it, but it is still a goal > of mine to provide the archives. > > I am also of the opinion that redhat should be doing this themselves, and > don't understand the values of the list (and archives would be), but don't > think it's going to happen anytime soon. > > So, unless redhat is willing to pay me to do it, don't hold your breath > for me :) > > Bret, I am still subscribed to the list, but procmail just files them > away, and I have not read it in months. I'd like nothing more than to have > the time to get back on the list, but I don't see that happening anytime > soon either. So good luck and patience with the newbies :) > > Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress if you go down the road of > trying to set them up yourselves. > > charles Both of these guys have gotten really busy, and I do not have the resources to provide this service either. In another email charles said. On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 18:25, Charles Galpin wrote: > On 13 Oct 2002, Bret Hughes wrote: > > > How easy would it be to move what you have created to another site and > > maintain it? Obviously not a no brainer if it is taking time from your > > money making activities. > > In theory it's no big deal, but in practice it may not. It was workign > fien here on one of my baoxes when I first wrote the scripts. We had to > make a number of changes to make them run in the prairienet env, but they > shoudl just mean a few more configuration options in a few files. We also > switched to php output instead of plain html (mainly to support > more/easier customization), but that shouldn't be a big factor. > > Mmh. Not that I think about it the main reason I didn't get my own setup > running recently was that I ran into trouble gettign htdig to work reently > (newer version). admittedly I didn't put a lot of effort into it, but keep > that in mind. > > You are of course free to take what we did and run with it. > > > > > FWIW I agree that redaht should do this but as many lists as they have I > > could see it being a fairly big deal. > > > > Do either of you car if I forward your comments to the list or at least > > redhat personnel if I decide to take up the banner? > > no objections here > > charles HTH Bret -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
