Further, I never understood why a starter must go 5 innings to be the pitcher of record when a reliever can come in for an inning and get a win. Seems crazy to me.
________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beaudoin, John Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Fixing "Wins" Well, then you need a boredom stat, too. It is baseball afterall. ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt & Olga McSorley Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fixing "Wins" I think "funness" should go to 11. ________________________________ From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 11:36:27 AM Subject: Re: Fixing "Wins" We can add the stat "Funness" and always set it to 100. On 7/26/10, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > I also think the terms wins and losses are too divisive for our children. I > think we should start calling all decisions co-victories. > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yesterday we saw that "Wins" as we count them today are a useless pitching >> stat. They are only vaguely correlated to the skill of a pitcher and can >> be >> picked up through sheer luck. >> >> That said, I think it would be good to have better "counting" stats for >> pitchers. Saves are an example of a decent counting stat. They measure >> pitching in difficult situations. So if I were king of the world (a >> horrible scenario) I'd like to see the following pitching stats. >> >> First a simple rule. All these stats only apply if the tying run is on >> deck when the pitcher enters the game. They are counted when the pitcher >> leaves the game. >> >> There are two basic stats: >> >> 1. The hold -- The team had the lead when the pitcher entered the game and >> kept it when he left. >> 2. The blown hold -- The team had the lead or a tie when the pitcher >> entered the game and didn't have it when he left. >> >> This gives us the following: >> >> 1. Win -- A hold that happens the inning after a team takes the lead >> 2. Loss -- A blown hold in a game where the team never regains the lead >> 3. Save -- A hold at the end of the game >> >> 4. Hold -- as defined >> 2. Blown hold -- as defined >> >> So in yesterday's game Oki would have gotten the loss and Aardmsa would >> have gotten a Win and a Save. >> >> Ray >> >> >> -- >> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >> www.fpgasimulation.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%2Bunsubscribe @googlegroups.com> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- Sent from my mobile device Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" www.fpgasimulation.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en.
