I totally agree that wins are highly overrated ... but saves are an example
of a decent counting stat? Saves are one of the WORST counting stats. A
whole generation of mediocre pitchers have become rich because they were
able to compile "saves" by protecting a three-run lead with no one on for
one inning.

Steve O

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yesterday we saw that "Wins" as we count them today are a useless pitching
> stat.  They are only vaguely correlated to the skill of a pitcher and can be
> picked up through sheer luck.
>
> That said, I think it would be good to have better "counting" stats for
> pitchers.  Saves are an example of a decent counting stat.  They measure
> pitching in difficult situations.  So if I were king of the world (a
> horrible scenario) I'd like to see the following pitching stats.
>
> First a simple rule.  All these stats only apply if the tying run is on
> deck when the pitcher enters the game.  They are counted when the pitcher
> leaves the game.
>
> There are two basic stats:
>
> 1. The hold -- The team had the lead when the pitcher entered the game and
> kept it when he left.
> 2. The blown hold -- The team had the lead or a tie when the pitcher
> entered the game and didn't have it when he left.
>
> This gives us the following:
>
> 1.  Win -- A hold that happens the inning after a team takes the lead
> 2.  Loss -- A blown hold in a game where the team never regains the lead
> 3.  Save -- A hold at the end of the game
>
> 4.  Hold  -- as defined
> 2. Blown hold -- as defined
>
> So in yesterday's game Oki would have gotten the loss and Aardmsa would
> have gotten a Win and a Save.
>
> Ray
>
>
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