That said, I'm going to be the first to throw the name Jesus Flores out there. Once a pretty good young catcher, missed last year with an injury, now stuck behind Pudge Rodriguez and Wilson Ramos in Washington.
Steve O On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]>wrote: > I'm talking a jump of, what, 40 points in OPS, from a once highly-touted > prospect who came up to the majors too early. I don't think that's > outrageous. > > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Salty career: 262 games, 849 at-bats: .246-.312-.379. That's not an >> insignificant sample size and he's never produced at the .260-.330-.400 >> level. >> >> And he can't reliably throw to the mound. >> >> As for whether catchers make a difference to pitchers, I can't say for >> sure. But when a pitcher as accomplished as Curt Schilling says it makes a >> significant difference, I have to weigh that at least as heavily as the >> research of a numbers guy in the Indians' front office who's never played >> the game. >> >> -- Matt >> .246 .312 .379 .692 >> >> 246 .312 .379 .692 >> 246 .312 .379 .692 >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Fri, April 22, 2011 6:47:40 PM >> >> *Subject:* Re: Tek must go >> >> ... in 36 at bats. He's not the reason the team is struggling, so why >> not give him a full opportunity to prove himself one way or the other? >> I don't think a .260-.330-.400 season is an outlandish expectation, >> and that would be an above average catcher performance at this point. >> >> Steve O >> >> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Perhaps not. But Saltalamacchia is providing neither production nor >> defense. >> > >> > -- Matt >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] >> > Sent: Fri, April 22, 2011 6:40:43 PM >> > Subject: Re: Tek must go >> > >> > I'm sorry. Tek is not making up for flailing at the plate and >> > throwing behind baserunners with canny pitch calling. >> > >> > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I think I'm saying Beckett pitches better to Varitek than other >> catchers. >> >> >> >> But your numbers are compelling. I agree with your suggestion that we >> sign >> >> Puffs Rodriguez. >> >> >> >> On Apr 22, 2011 6:03 PM, "Steve Ouellette" <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >>> That's not consistent. You're saying Tek is five runs better than the >> >>> generic catcher defensively? Per game? >> >>> >> >>> Beckett's ERA with Paul Lo Duca, Mike Redmond and noted poor pitch >> >>> caller Pudge Rodriguez: 3.46. >> >>> >> >>> Steve O >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>>> Those numbers are consistent with Beckett's Tek vs. Non-Tek numbers >> over >> >>>> the >> >>>> past four years. 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