I share Sandy's skepticism about the "play in the joints" 
locution, but I wonder why equal treatment doesn't make sense as a maximalist 
theory?

                Consider Sandy's auditoria hypothetical.  It's hard to infer 
much based on it, I think, because it's hard to imagine the government actually 
building auditoria for private organizations.  But let's consider two more 
plausible versions:


1.       The government builds a city auditorium, not for its own speech but to 
enable private organizations to speak.  Churches would indeed have a First 
Amendment right to equal access to such an auditorium.  See Rosenberger v. 
Rector.



2.       The government offers property tax exemptions for a wide range of 
nonprofits, and makes contributions to such nonprofits tax-deductible.  Thus, 
if a nonprofit is building an auditorium, it in effect gets a massive 
matching-grant subsidy from the government.  There's nothing nonsensical, it 
seems to me, about churches being entitled to use this subsidy for building 
their churches.  Indeed, they get such a subsidy now, and it's seen as 
constitutional.  See Walz.  And I think that, if some government decided to 
exclude churches from such subsidies (while making them available to a vast 
range of comparable nonprofits), that would indeed violate the Free Exercise 
Clause.


Now one can argue that, as a matter of history, police, or what have you, the 
Free Exercise Clause should not be read as mandating equal treatment for 
religious observers in general, as to funding, as to some kinds of funding, or 
what have you.  But I just don't see why the equal access rule wouldn't "make[] 
sense."

                Eugene

From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu 
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Levinson, Sanford V
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 9:58 AM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: The Establishment Clause question in the Trinity Lutheran case

Shouldn't we admit that "play in the joints" is simply a euphemism for judicial 
balancing between the competing notions of no establishment, on the one hand, 
and free exercise+equality on the other. Neither makes sense as maximalist 
theory. The former would prohibit police protection, the latter would require 
the state to build churches if it auditoria for the people to use as gathering 
places to discuss important issues. So we rely on Rehnquist's and his 
successors' hunches as to where one should draw the line. We delude ourselves 
in believing that legal doctrine can work itself pure in this--or, for that 
matter, any other significant--area. "The life of the law is experience, not 
logic."

The problem is that it is awkward for well-paid law professors to teach their 
students that law often comes down to the idiosyncratic views of the median 
justices and that it is basically foolish to believe there are true doctrinal 
rationales that can predict future decisions.

Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 17, 2016, at 7:45 AM, Steven Jamar 
<stevenja...@gmail.com<mailto:stevenja...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It seems to me that the play-in-the-joints theory and providing accommodations 
between exercise and establishment shoiuld win out in this instance thereby 
upholding the Missouri Constitutional ban on direct and indirect financial 
support for religious organizations.

A ruling that pushes the neutrality principle this far as to prohibit states 
from making these sorts of choices and judgments seems likely to further make a 
hash of the problem rather than simplifying or clarifying things.  A rule that 
allows for such subsidy of religion by the state while allowing states not to 
so subsidize religions in these ways seems to be what the voucher cases seem to 
indicate as the direction the law is going.

But as for me, all bets are off on this one as to result and as to theories 
selected from the grab-bag the court has created over the decades.

Steve

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