On Aug 28, 2007, at 10:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> At 8/28/2007 16:01, you wrote:
>> Bob Dengler wrote:
>>
>>> One concept that really helps in this area is CTCSS tone frequency
>>> standardization, IOW tones by region.  All you then need to know  
>>> is the
>>> freq. being used in the area you're traveling to.  Many areas are  
>>> already
>>> well established: 110.9 in Rochester NY, 107.2 in Niagara Falls &  
>>> San
>>> Diego, 131.8 in Santa Barbara, 127.3 in Springfield MA.  Even if  
>>> you don't
>>> know what tone is in use, all you have to do is find the tone of one
>>> system.  After that you can find the others by kerchunking (with  
>>> ID of
>>> course!) all the other pairs with that tone.
>>>
>>> Bob NO6B
>>
>> It seems to me that if you have all the repeaters in an area  
>> running the
>> same CTCSS tone, and start fighting a mixing problem... everything is
>> going to be back to keying everything else in short order.
>
> This gets us back to the "CTCSS-bandaid" issue.  If your ham TXs  
> are IMDing
> with each other & landing back on your inputs, you need to fix it.
>
> The only IMD problems I've had linger on my systems were caused by
> non-amateur TXs.  If amateur TXs were involved, we found the actual  
> source
> of the problem & fixed it.

Ahh, but the reality is... all hams operating repeaters aren't  
created equal.

If you "push" that all repeaters in an area run the same tone, and  
then some doofus comes along and his lashed up mess of a couple of  
mobiles and a mobile duplexer hooked up with RG-8X and it starts  
opening itself... he's just as likely to blame it on "that big club  
repeater on the other leg of the tower" than on his own ineptitude.

If you're on a completely different CTCSS tone than Barney Fife  
there, he has no case and he'll go hunting elsewhere, without any  
bullets.

:-)

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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