On Oct 24, 2007, at 12:37 AM, John Barrett wrote: > Re splitting the simplex: a circulator with the radio hooked to the > input, the transmit chain on the standard output, and the receive > chain feeding the load port is what I was thinking – a relay would > do the job just as well, but would require changes to the PC based > Packet Engine software to support flipping the relay before and > after transmitting. I don’t think that’s a built in feature, and > source code is not available. Whoa whoa whoa, wait... one of your goals snuck into the last two e- mails... you're using the isolator to split TX/RX on a rig that has a single RF connector???
So you're just trying to figure out how to "split" a radio that doesn't have a separate TX/RX and uses a single RF connector...? Did I misinterpret what you're trying to do there? If all you're looking to do is split TX/RX in the "simplex" radios, that's a lot easier than you think -- no isolator required. That can be done a number of ways... 1. Coaxial RF-rated relay... triggered by PTT logic signal, perhaps with a "sequencer" made out of discreet logic or if you're into writing some trivial ASM or BASIC code, a microcontroller -- which receives the PTT signal and then keys the relay first, then keys the rig slightly afterward. (All depending on timing/speed of the rig to respond to the PTT signal and start transmitting RF.) Your packet engine must be providing a PTT somewhere, right? 2. Use (relatively cheap but VERY good quality) older commercial radios were TX/RX chains inside are already separate and isolated to some extent from one-another. (GE MASTR II, Motorola Micor, etc.) 3. Surgery on the rig -- something inside is switching between the TX and RX chain... find the right point and lift traces (or whatever) and add coax and a connector to bring out the appropriate "side" while leaving the other connector intact. (This is similar to #2, but "harder" in more modern rigs, and you'll need to study the schematic to see how that rig is doing its T/R switching. Not always for the electronics beginner.) Heck, I'd go find a couple of MASTR II mobiles, buy crystals, tune 'em up, and go. Not only would you get the benefit of the separated T/R sections inside, but the front-end filtering on the M-II is heavy- duty, and would help your other design problems... not much gets through those helical-coil filters on the front-end of that receiver. (Arguably, that's also a trade-off, the M-II isn't as sensitive as a modern barn-door-wide front-end rig.) -- Nate Duehr, WY0X [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/