Jim,

This problem has bothered IC type dtmf decoders for years.  One would not see 
it as much if controllers did not mute rx-to-tx audio for security reasons.  
Some controllers allow this muting to be turned on/off.  Other needs for 
passing the dtmf, such as for echolink, can be useful.

Lowering the dtmf input level is one solution for it is easy to set the level 
somewhat higher than needed.

To best set the level with common dtmf decoders like the 8870 and 8880 is use 
of a scope on pin 3, the internal op-amp output.  One can see here the actual 
audio the decoder is decoding.  Most Hams do not have access to a scope is one 
problem.

It is rather difficult to state a proper level for there are so many variables 
in the dtmf audio; level, twist and level of each tone, and varying levels with 
the 8 tones.  I usually set to about 3 V p-p from a center digit.

73, ron, n9ee/r




>From: Jim Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/03/27 Thu PM 11:30:46 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] False DTMF Muting On CAT-1000 Controller

>                
>My experience is with the CAT-300 controllers, but I have found that if the 
>level to the DTMF decoder is set too high, it is a lot more prone to falsing 
>and covering a transmission with the cover tone.  I have found that female 
>voices gave the most problem.  Reducing the level to the DTMF decoder in the 
>controller cleared this up for me.
>
>73 - Jim  W5ZIT
>
>"Tony L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                          The DTMF muting 
>feature on one of our CAT-1000 controllers occasionally 
> falses and sends cover tone over a user's voice.  This happens to one 
> user more so than anyone else.
> 
> Is there an adjustment?  Why does this happen on only one of 3 idential 
> controllers?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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>
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Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
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