As long as they send more "gubmint cheese" with them naughts and unns,
we-all in Missouri Ozarks will be just fine!

Chris
Kb0wlf



From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Glaenzer
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:03 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

Hey, I checked and found the problem
 
Here, the value of a '1' is really 0.9985
 
and '0' = 0.0015
 
Digital' is not true digital at all, but the creators of the system said
'Close enough, those rubes in the flatlands of IL will never notice!'
 
Let's get 'da gubmint' involved in fixing this, I'm sure it can be corrected
for only $ 150,000,000,000 or so...............
 
Gary
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Barry 
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:57 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

Maybe your digital is less versatile than our here in Au ?
 I live a long way from the tx site and experience little degredation with
my nice shiny new set top box and antenna .
 Or maybe your analogue setup simply doesn't work well on the wrong
frequencies ?
________________________________________
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: glaen...@verizon.net
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:51:04 -0600
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

but............But...........BUT...................
 
I thought The Almighty and Everlasting Digital Signal (Praise Be To Its Bits
Eternally, Ignore That Pixellating Behind The Curtain ! ) was going to cure
all the supposed ills of that nasty old NTSC demon 
 
Can it be that ONCE AGAIN, we were fed a crap sandwich by the NATVB and the
FCC ?
 
PLEASE..tell me it ain't so !
 
Pessimist About All Things Digital,
Gary in IL
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Chuck Kelsey 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

This is going to be a bigger problem than many stations may have 
anticipated. A friend of mine has an all-channel antenna on a rotor and can 
get 20 analog stations. He purchased a converter to see what he could get in

digital. He can only get four, and three of those pixilate quite badly. 
Almost everything has gone to UHF here. My area is in the fringe of two 
markets. UHF doesn't work as well in the hills. I doubt translators will be 
implemented -- too much money.

Chuck

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <n...@no6b.com>
To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

> At 2/19/2009 18:08, you wrote:
>>Along these same lines....
>>
>>Has anyone on this list built / put into practice a Gray-Hoverman panel
>>antenna? How do they perform? Is it worth building one? Double or single?
>>http://www.casano.com/projects/hoverman/index.html
>>
>>I'm about 70 miles from my target DTV market. (Pittsburgh, PA) NOBODY here
>>can seem to get the Pittsburgh ABC affiliate with their current V/U 
>>antenna
>>setups. (WTAE4) I have some people that I am helping get their converter
>>boxes hooked up and working. They are VERY disappointed that they won't be
>>able get their news from channel 4 once DTV has gone into full effect. 
>>(They
>>DO have one of the areas BEST news teams - in my opinion.)
>
> The center of the map says it all IMO: A4 - D51. Would be nice if they
> backfilled ch. 4 after the cutover, but I think the channel #s on the map
> indicate the final assignment.
>
>>I'm wondering if a dedicated UHF panel and good UHF only preamp will help
>>the situation.
>
> I think all you can do is go for max. gain @ ch. 51 & hope the problem
> isn't multipath; if it is you're SOL unless you go WAY up in the air with
> the antenna. Stacked Yagis might get the job done @ ch. 51, but then 
> you'd
> need another antenna for the other channels. Don't know if a parabolic
> would be broadband enough - depends on the type of feed & if the aperture
> (diameter) is large enough to work reasonably at the lowest DTV channel.
>
> Bob NO6B
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


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