Here is the way we do it in Arkansas. There are six districts and each use different CTCSS tones. As far as the discussion of open and closed based on tone, I hear from many older hams that toned repeaters are closed and non-toned repeaters are open (must have been that way before my time no doubt). Our local club repeater is open, some access to it requires tone, and some doesn't. None of it is closed, but we do have the right and exercise the right to limit access to those who follow the policies set forth by the club. Always with the attitude to help and encourage all, with much patience and understanding. If some nutcase just refuses too act right, then it becomes closed to him. I am not trying to address the closed repeater question at all, simply that OPEN repeaters may or may not be toned, and even an open repeater may restrict certain users and still not have a tone on their repeater. http://www.arkansasrepeatercouncil.org/page25.html John Godfrey KE5NZY
-----Original Message----- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 7:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters I've been watching this post for a number of days now. Seems that there are a lot of hams who have at lot of opinions to share. I'm going to throw out a question to all: Has anyone checked with in individual state coordinating associations about this matter when applying for or renewing their coordination? I live in Southeastern Wisconsin, just north and west of Milwaukee. I could be wrong about this, but I seem to remember a PL frequency band plan by region in the state that is recommended by the Wisconsin Association of Repeaters, who is the coordination body for the state. As there are many hams who are replying to this thread in the CONUS, has anyone checked to see if their individual coordination body has either recommended or mandated PL/DPL (or other regulated means) to keep a system that has been coordinated closed (or open)? Any guidelines that you wish to share with the group? I'd be interested in hearing the results. 73, Don, KD9PT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Wagoner" <larrywagoner@ <mailto:larrywagoner%40bellsouth.net> bellsouth.net> To: <Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters > At 04:10 PM 7/27/2009, you wrote: >>On a likely non-related issue concerning open vs. closed: A non- >>trivial number of the local believe that use of PL/DPL constitutes a >>"closed" repeater. > > Cort, > When were these people licensed - and WHO taught them? > I teach the Tech class in my area - and the facts about tones are > PART of the course (the way I teach it, anyway). > I am often stunned by what LICENSED HAMS do NOT know about this > hobby. Things they should have learned when getting their TECH license. > > > Larry Wagoner - N5WLW > VP - PRCARC > PIC - MS SECT ARRL > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >