Will this Duplexer work with the Mastr II repeater?

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On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:32 AM, WA3GIN <wa3...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> For fun we operated a 400 watt erp repeater with two antennas and no
> duplexer.  We were able to achieve about 100db attenuation by using the roof
> equipment penthouse.  The transmit antenna was mounted on the top of the
> penthouse and the receive antenna was installed diagonally from the transmit
> antenna on the roof below the penthouse. Each antenna was physically
> separated by the penthouse structure. Transmit performance was good and
> receiver performance was good about 270 degrees minus the abstructed zone.
> No feedback or other issues. Eventually, we installed TXRX 6 can duplexer
> and utilized the penthouse antenna.  Receive coverage regained 360 degree
> coverage.  So, it is doable if you have the right antenna site.
>
> Best,
> dave
> wa3gin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Kevin Custer <kug...@kuggie.com>
> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 03, 2010 11:12 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II mods and parts
>
>
>
> Michael Cox wrote:
>
> Thank you for your help.  I appreciate it!  I've put a couple of questions
> inline below.
>
>    Well - you'll need a duplexer no mater the price...   <grin>
>>
>
> I was under the impression that if I had two antennas, I could get by
> without a duplexer.  Thanks for the heads up.
>
>
> While two antennas will work, and you'd initially think there is a cost
> savings using two antennas, that isn't always the case.
>
> The determining factor usually ends up being the length and size of
> feed-line necessary to get from the repeater to the antenna.  On UHF, unless
> the feed-line length is really short, you'll want to use some type of
> hard-line cable.  The cost of this cable, depending on type and length, can
> be costly.  It may be less costly to use one antenna and a duplexer then to
> install two antennas and have two runs of feed-line.  In addition, you'll
> usually end up with a better balanced system using one antenna because using
> two can cause a disparity if both antennas don't have the exact same pattern
> - which could be difficult to achieve depending on the tower space
> available.  In installations where you have to pay rent on tower space -
> it's usually by far cheaper to purchase a duplexer.
>
>  RE: Power Amplifier
>
> Are these what I'm looking for?
>
>
> Generically - Yes.
>
>    It looks like there is a UHF and a VHF version of the PA.  Is that
> correct?
>
>
> Yes.
>
>    Are they not compatible with each other?
>
>
> No.
>
> VHF and UHF are two totally different bands.  You cannot use a UHF PA on a
> VHF repeater and vice-versa.  The third one you listed is a Mobile PA - not
> something you'll want.
>
> You want a UHF Station PA like the second one you listed - but it isn't the
> exact one either.  The one you want requires 200 mW of drive - not 20 watts
> - but, the correct one looks very similar to the one in your number two
> listing.
>
> I don't presently see a good candidate on eBay - but they show up all the
> time.
>
>    Duplexer - used WACOM Products WP-678 (or similar), also available from
>> eBay.
>>
>
> I couldn't find any on eBay.   Any guesses what I'd be paying for something
> like this?
>
>
> $250 plus shipping.
>
>
>
>
>>   Controller - I recommend a NHRC model that plugs into the "Systems"
>> board, or, one of the Pion & Simon models that plug into the card cage.
>>
>> http://www.nhrc.net/ge-stuff.php
>> http://www.pionsimon.com/products.htm
>>
>
>
> It looks like I can use the NHRC-4/M2 to make it a linked repeater.  If I
> go with the Ham repeater, I'll most likely do that.  That would require, if
> I understand correctly, another radio connected in, so that will have to be
> done later with future funds. :)
>
>
> Correct.
>
>
> If I decide to make it a GMRS repeater, I won't have to worry about that
> and will go with the PSE508-2, as its a little less expensive.
>
>
> Also a good choice.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>   
>



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