"ReactOS server edition with no GUI, everything is done remotely"
(this was an ancient idea of mine)
*cough*

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Aleksey Bragin <alek...@reactos.org> wrote:

> Yes, this is a key point, being better than existing setups.
> Imagine how it's done with Linux now: You have a preinstalled Linux, say,
> dedicated server. Then you log into it using ssh, do aptitude (or rpm, or
> whatever) install apache2, then install php5, then install mysql. Then you
> go to /etc/apache2/ and start editing apache.conf, go to
> /etc/apache2/conf.d, hack something there. Then it doesn't work because it
> can't resolve fully qualified name, you go to /etc/network, edit text files
> there, then go to /etc/resolv.d to set correct DNS servers, then set up
> correct host name in a dozen of different places.
> That was just apache2. Then you proceed to mysql, edit hundreds of other
> config files and watching logs simulteneously in /var/log.
>
> I think in the modern world, a person should remotely login via a graphics
> shell into Windows/ReactOS-alike desktop, and configure stuff there using
> Control Panel! Install LAMP using our package manager, finetune config using
> tools like WEBMIN and enjoy running your server. The only thing preventing
> people from using that way now because Windows costs real money and Linux is
> free.
>
> I performed setups of Linux servers I think, hundreds of times, and
> everytime I was bitching about it. Last time was a couple of days ago when I
> was setting up a ZoneMinder server for 5th time, because precious Ubuntu
> package manager sucked, the kernel didn't support my capture card without
> guess what?! recompiling the "kirnel"!! And that I had to increase default
> shared memory size (I spent hours searching which line in which config to
> add for *ubuntu* to recognize that I want shmmax to be increased),
> symbolically linking stuff so that apache2 is happy and sees my zm
> directory.
> Certainly ZoneMinder is not available for Windows because Windows costs
> money and is proprietary. It's same reason I have to choose Linux everytime
> I need a server.
>
> If I had the option to use a much better, modern and free operating system
> - I would not think even one second what to choose.
>
> Did I convince you that ReactOS-based servers aren't that bad idea? :)
>
> WBR,
> Aleksey Bragin.
>
> On Oct 23, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Olaf Siejka wrote:
>
> How will you convince anyone that such setup on ReactOS is of any worth to
> be used and what is more important - better to be used over similar linux
> setups?
> Right now we dont have enough manpower to keep testing ROS on a most basic
> level (its over a week, or even more since i managed to discover the broken
> resolution change switch... pretty basic, huh?). Starting another target
> will either have us split our thin resources over another goal (like arwinss
> did beforehand) so if we dont have any more people, we will be forced to
> drop work on trunk (our main goal) even futher.
>
> Regards
>
> 2010/10/23 Aleksey Bragin <alek...@reactos.org>
>
>> Hi ReactOS friends and colleagues.
>> Webserver
>> - Network subsystem (mainly tcpip.sys driver, and some winsock
>> improvement)
>> - VNC support (future RDP support)
>> - Apache/MySQL/PHP support
>> - XAMPP with toolbox
>> - WEBMIN
>>
>> Thin Client (LiveCD or BootCD)
>> - Re-port our MSTSC.EXE
>> - Local printing (USB/LPT printer support?)
>>
>> Please give us your opinion and please also add possible ideas that you
>> have and think through what needs to get in place to see it come to pass.
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>> Aleksey & Jan (Jaix)
>> through Jan
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