Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in
 <20210601233913.amdcu%stef...@sdaoden.eu>:
 |Hello again.
 |
 |Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in
 | <20210601220817.udcky%stef...@sdaoden.eu>:
 ||Stephen Isard wrote in
 || <31861-1622557650-134...@sneakemail.com>:
 | ...
 |||is fine.  When I connect to an Outlook account with
 |||s-nail -f imaps://some_acco...@office365.outlook.com,
 | ...
 ||So i just completed my registration for a free account there at
 ||outlook.office365.com, but whatever i do i cannot get in via this
 ||little MUA .. even with the current development version.  (I was
 | ...
 |
 |So i enabled two-factor verification (mysteriously the already
 |existing backup mail was not allowed, i really had to create yet
 |another one .. that i luckily have), and created an app-password,
 |and used that as *password*.  Unfortunately it does not change
 |a thing.  Maybe Microsoft currently misbehaves?  I mean, GMail
  ...

That reminds me.  Your Alpine just "can"?
I have no other MUA around for testing.
Well, i know Alpine does the full OAuth "dance", but that requires
HTTP, which is insane (why not "just TLS connection"), and i said
it is insane, and when "someone" said "but http you can?" (more or
less) i said yes, of course, but then there is HTTP/2 and we are
in trouble (more or less), and then HTTP/3 is up and coming (and
indeed the QUIC RFCs just made it, last Thursday in fact iirc,
what a coincidence, maybe).  I mean even cURL does not do that
itself, it requires nghttp2 for HTTP/2 (and seems to go for
"nghttp3" or so for QUIC, even "he" is deeply involved in QUIC
i think).  So you have a megabyte big dependency chain, plus JSON
(or you use jsmn which is pretty small but only knows "object",
aka bytes with a size, and, heck, for that i do not need JSON, do
i??).  No, they should have extended Kerberos than i'd have
a local ticket, but no, they do not want to.  What do i know.
I have a very strong bad feeling regarding OAuth.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

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