" It would also be nice to have a 50ft double door car with the rectangular 
panel roof.."
Or a replacement roof for the PRS car.  Resin perhaps?
Some plug doors would be nice, too!
Charles Weston


--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Pieter Roos <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Pieter Roos <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: 40' vs. 50' boxcars
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, August 15, 2011, 11:13 AM















 
 



  


    
      
      
      Hi dave;



Well, except that there were 40 ft cars with 7 and 8 ft single doors and 12, 14 
or 15' double doors as well.



While I have not looked hard enough yet, the PRS 50ft car seems to have a 
somewhat unusual rivet/panel pattern on the sides., like the ATSF Fe-24.



Pieter E. Roos



--- On Mon, 8/15/11, danvandermause <[email protected]> wrote:



> Bob:

> You are right about the difficulties of loading automobiles

> into boxcars -- no wonder the railroads lost most of the

> finished automobile market until the advent of multilevel

> flats!

> 

> One factor that drove the conversion from 40 foot to 50

> foot boxcars, that you do not hear a lot about in the model

> press, was the increasing use of mechanized loading (fork

> lifts)during the 1950's.  The typical 6-foot door on a

> 40-foot boxcar was a good door size during the days when

> labor was cheap and a car could be loaded one box at a time

> (or one stick of lumber at a time).  The 6-foot door

> was also easy to close off with a grain door, for grain

> loading.

> 

> Generally, you need at least an 8-foot door width to

> effectively utilize a fork lift, and if you are loading

> lumber, a 16-foot double door is better.

> 

> So, even if a customer did not necessarily need the extra

> cubic capacity of a 50-foot car versus a 40-foot car, the

> door width of the newer 50-foot car was often the

> determining factor.

> 

> Dan Vandermause

> 

> 

> 

> --- In [email protected],

> Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:

> >

> > Dan, you are absolutely correct about when 50 cars

> started their 

> > invasion.  But don't forget about earlier 50 ft

> cars assigned to 

> > furniture service and also many DD cars were used to

> haul finished cars 

> > with internal racks.  Those must have been a real

> pain to load and 

> > unload!  I think there is a Union Pacific book

> showing little Crosley's 

> > loaded in a boxcar--two aside.  Despite Crosley's

> being very narrow, I 

> > don't know how the last driver got out of the car

> door.





    
     

    
    


 



  










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