Statistically HO is 60% of the TOTAL toy/scale train market, ALL the rest  
are the other 40%.
I believe I read somewhere that "S' is about 5 % of the 100% that is the  
other 40%.   Scary, huh????
 
Jim Lyle
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/17/2011 4:26:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

"Gauging" the thoughts today is like comparing Bells original phone  with 
an I phone.

Als National A'ssn S Scalers won't sit well as NASS.  At least it would 
draw attention.

No wonder  Model Railroader  pushes HO at Christmas and says it's the top 
one.  It is also Santa's  favorite.
He is always going HO  HO  HO.

John  Armstrong
----- Original Message ----- 
From:  [email protected] 
To: [email protected] 
Cc:  [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:10  PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: What's in a  name?





The fore-runners (Tom's "old  timers")  in S  may have chosen the term 
'gauge', but I doubt very  seriously that they sat down and discussed whether 
to 
use it or the term  'scale' instead.  They, like I'm sure is the case with 
the vast majority  of folks, probably just went with what they had always 
heard/used... right or  wrong without even thinking about it. 

Believe it or not, I  agree with Tom as to where the true dividing line is 
in the association... but  coming to this conclusion does nothing for those 
not in S.  The problem  we have is in making an effective statement to the 
other SCALES that S is NOT  just AF and that there are some real modelers 
amongst us... and real MODELS as  well, not just all toys.  Until we get THAT 
message out there  EFFECTIVELY... nothing is going to change.  But the 
paradox is that  something is going to have to change to get that message out 
there.  

Let the crucifixion begin. (again) 

John Degnan  

[email protected] 

----- Original Message  -----

From: "Tom Hawley" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011  2:42:09 PM 
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: What's in a name?  

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lamont Heppe  
Also, as Dick Karnes recently pointed out, NASG was created by  scale 
modelers not hi railers or AF guys and I have to assume they  selected the 
name. 
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > 
----------Response----------- 
That's what I tried to say  recently.  I agree with the sentiment in the 
above, but it  needs a little technical correction, if I'm not mistaken. 

Some  of those old timers (peace be upon them) I believe did use 
AF-compatible track & wheel standards.  But they were  modellers.  They 
took 
whatever would work, frequently AF  equipment, added & removed detail, and 
modified it into cars,  locos, &c, that more closely represented real RR 
prototypes.  This is real the dividing line in our Association - those  who 
try to model what they know of real RRs (irrespective of track  & wheel 
standards) - versus those who just want to accumulate a  lot of a certain 
quasi-defunct brand of toy train. 

Tom Hawley  --  Lansing Mich 

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