Hi Mike, There's always improvements to what you have. I doubt I'll ever be fully satisfied with the work I've done, so there's always the possibility of replaceing cars, locomotives, track, structures, scenery, etc. with something better. I have a spot on my layout that's hidden trackage right behind my workbench. It's the only place where it's 24" radius. Because all the work gets done on my workbench, I was reluctant to clear it off and stop work on everything else to fix it. Since I got layed off from work, I moved my workbench into the house so I could save money heating the trailer. Well, they asked me to come back to work, I turned the heat back on, the area is open now and ready to repair, and I actually have the money to buy the materials I need :o) While I am looking forward to having it finished enough to operate, I still enjoy modeling. If it should ever happen that I have nothing else to build, I'll tear everything out and start over. Only this time.....
Ed Kozlowsky Sanford, Maine >________________________________ >From: Michael & Linda Marmer <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:31 AM >Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Market > > > >Actually, what I really meant to write, that the makers of any product has a >cycle in marketing. The decline part of the cycle, as many products go through >these, is not a pretty picture > >New customers has to be sought after, as for me, I have enough rolling stock, >engines, etc. so I am pretty much done in buying any new S products. I don’t >need new buildings, track, too. The one thing I hope to get is about 8 Western >MD hoppers from SHS someday, as I hope that will happen for SHS and the other >companies to get back on board with a new maker of product. > >Maybe a S scale Hudson, but then I am done. > >So the key in growing the hobby is finding new customers, selling the product >to new users, etc.. > >Mike > >From: Michael & Linda Marmer >Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:25 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Market > >Advertising is what it takes to build product sales, without it, your done, >basically. > >Even the number one soft drink has to continue to advertise, or number 2 will >take over in time, Coke, Pepsi, as Pepsi is not too far behind Coke now. > >Service is key, too, as Coke’s service to the food service industry is >terrible. > >real estate agents who fail, did not market themselves, and so on. > >Lionel so > >From: gsc3 >Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:06 PM >To: mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com >Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Market > >I looked through the last Model Railroader I bought and there was one S ad, >from American Models and 1 other ad that mentioned an item in 4 scales. No way >to tell, but I would bet S provides maybe 1/2 of 1% of MR's ad revenues, but >receives about 2% of the coverage. > >George Courtney > >--- In mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com, WJJIM@... wrote: >> >> Statistically HO is 60% of the TOTAL toy/scale train market, ALL the rest >> are the other 40%. >> I believe I read somewhere that "S' is about 5 % of the 100% that is the >> other 40%. Scary, huh???? >> >> Jim Lyle >> >> >> >> In a message dated 11/17/2011 4:26:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> armstong5717@... writes: >> >> "Gauging" the thoughts today is like comparing Bells original phone with >> an I phone. >> >> Als National A'ssn S Scalers won't sit well as NASS. At least it would >> draw attention. >> >> No wonder Model Railroader pushes HO at Christmas and says it's the top >> one. It is also Santa's favorite. >> He is always going HO HO HO. >> >> John Armstrong >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Scaler164@... >> To: mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com >> Cc: mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:10 PM >> Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: What's in a name? >> >> >> >> >> >> The fore-runners (Tom's "old timers") in S may have chosen the term >> 'gauge', but I doubt very seriously that they sat down and discussed whether >> to >> use it or the term 'scale' instead. They, like I'm sure is the case with >> the vast majority of folks, probably just went with what they had always >> heard/used... right or wrong without even thinking about it. >> >> Believe it or not, I agree with Tom as to where the true dividing line is >> in the association... but coming to this conclusion does nothing for those >> not in S. The problem we have is in making an effective statement to the >> other SCALES that S is NOT just AF and that there are some real modelers >> amongst us... and real MODELS as well, not just all toys. Until we get THAT >> message out there EFFECTIVELY... nothing is going to change. But the >> paradox is that something is going to have to change to get that message out >> there. >> >> Let the crucifixion begin. (again) >> >> John Degnan >> >> Scaler164@... >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Tom Hawley" <t.hawley@...> >> To: mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 2:42:09 PM >> Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: What's in a name? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Lamont Heppe >> Also, as Dick Karnes recently pointed out, NASG was created by scale >> modelers not hi railers or AF guys and I have to assume they selected the >> name. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ----------Response----------- >> That's what I tried to say recently. I agree with the sentiment in the >> above, but it needs a little technical correction, if I'm not mistaken. >> >> Some of those old timers (peace be upon them) I believe did use >> AF-compatible track & wheel standards. But they were modellers. They >> took >> whatever would work, frequently AF equipment, added & removed detail, and >> modified it into cars, locos, &c, that more closely represented real RR >> prototypes. This is real the dividing line in our Association - those who >> try to model what they know of real RRs (irrespective of track & wheel >> standards) - versus those who just want to accumulate a lot of a certain >> quasi-defunct brand of toy train. >> >> Tom Hawley -- Lansing Mich >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 6639 (20111117) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 6639 (20111117) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! 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