On 11/18/14 7:55 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > > On Monday, November 17, 2014 3:26:18 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: > > What if instead of a "code of conduct" there was a "community > expectations" SHORT document that just say what we expect? > > > I'm a little bit late to this thread, but I've read all the mails. This > "expectations" document sounds interesting to me, whereas I'm a bit hesitant > to this "code of conduct" thing. In my eyes, it is > stating a lot of obvious things, and doesn't solve immediate problems. I > agree that it could be abused in some way, just because it exists and hence > it is a leverage point. e.g. phrases like "poor > behavior" are a bit hollow for me. (*)
Saying that discussions that get out of hand can be relegated to sage-flame is, I think, important. For example, I did not know that we could do that until very recently. Stating explicitly how this can be done might be good. > We should not forget, that most of us here (as mathematicians & researchers > in general) are trained to be (a) very picky and (b) long-term persistent. > Those ingredients do not help if a discussion > derails into lengthy substitution-arguments to just make a point in a > time-consuming thread. What would actually help in such situations is to step > back and look at the bigger picture. Maybe there > should be an intervention team of "senior" community people to sort this out: > e.g. just posting "DRAMA MODE" as a signal for everyone to stop it? But who > are those and how do they gain authority? One problem with this is that the intervention team might not be reading all threads. So having a way to say where there is a problem might still be useful. I agree deciding who the intervention team is is an important question. Probably William would be a good choice. Best, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.