I think joining NumFocus is a good idea. On Mon, 24 Sep 2018, 15:07 Erik Bray, <erik.m.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 3:35 PM William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:12 AM, kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 1:18:50 AM UTC-4, rjf wrote: > > >> > > >> I assume that other research universities work about the same as at UC > > >> Berkeley. Anyone can donate money to a professor's research > activities > > >> with a designation something like "to support Prof X's research in the > > >> area of ABC". It is monitored by the university, but such "various > > >> donors" > > >> funds are typically more flexible than (say) money from a federal > > >> contract, where budget categories like "hardware" and "travel" may > > >> be more rigidly defined. Perhaps the concept here is mostly an > > >> alternative name for > > >> "The various donors fund of Prof William Stein, for research in some > field > > >> of mutual interest" > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > > > > As far as I can tell things have always been used specifically for > > > Sage-specific activities. Now that CoCalc is essentially doing the > Sage > > > booth, perhaps it would not be appropriate to use Sage Foundation > funds to > > > fund that booth, but in the past that was a very appropriate use (if I > > > understand the nature of the current booth correctly, which I may not). > > > > The booth tends to be about three things: > > > > - Sage > > - CoCalc > > - the Univ of Washington math grad program > > > > See attached picture from the last booth, which has the CoCalc and Sage > banners. > > People come by and often talk with us about Sage, get Sage stickers, etc. > > Prospective grad students often start asking me about UW. > > Of course people also talk with us about CoCalc too. > > > > Nobody is paid from Sage Foundation money to be at the booth -- Sage > foundation > > just pays for some travel expenses and the booth rental. If you > > genuinely think it would be > > better for Sage for us to not have the booth at all, let me know, and > > I'll consider > > cancelling it, since it's a lot of work to travel and be exhausted day > > after day by > > questions... > > > > > For reference to newcomers, in the past there was discussion of > setting up a > > > "proper" Sage Foundation under US (or other) nonprofit law but William > ... > > > > More specifically, two years ago, I talked with a competent lawyer who > > advised me that setting up a not-for-profit for a software project > > is a complete nonstarter with the IRS these days. That wasn't the > > case in the past, > > but it was in 2016. I'm personally not going to pursue this further. > > If somebody > > else wants to, the community will I hope be supportive of their effort. > > I would suggest, rather, seeing about applying for Sage to join the > NumFocus organization: https://numfocus.org/ > > That always seemed the obvious thing to me, but maybe I'm missing > something. However, once I did learn that the Sage Foundation is a > thing that exists, it seemed at least less necessary since we were > already getting that kind of support from UW. But if we ever lose > that, that would seem the way to go. And I believe there has been an > effort started recently to establish a NumFocus organization in Europe > as well, IIRC. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
