On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think joining NumFocus is a good idea.
+1 and it doesn't preclude people/companies still donating to something at UW if they want to... William > On Mon, 24 Sep 2018, 15:07 Erik Bray, <erik.m.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 3:35 PM William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:12 AM, kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 1:18:50 AM UTC-4, rjf wrote: >> > >> >> > >> I assume that other research universities work about the same as at >> > >> UC >> > >> Berkeley. Anyone can donate money to a professor's research >> > >> activities >> > >> with a designation something like "to support Prof X's research in >> > >> the >> > >> area of ABC". It is monitored by the university, but such "various >> > >> donors" >> > >> funds are typically more flexible than (say) money from a federal >> > >> contract, where budget categories like "hardware" and "travel" may >> > >> be more rigidly defined. Perhaps the concept here is mostly an >> > >> alternative name for >> > >> "The various donors fund of Prof William Stein, for research in some >> > >> field >> > >> of mutual interest" >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > >> > > As far as I can tell things have always been used specifically for >> > > Sage-specific activities. Now that CoCalc is essentially doing the >> > > Sage >> > > booth, perhaps it would not be appropriate to use Sage Foundation >> > > funds to >> > > fund that booth, but in the past that was a very appropriate use (if I >> > > understand the nature of the current booth correctly, which I may >> > > not). >> > >> > The booth tends to be about three things: >> > >> > - Sage >> > - CoCalc >> > - the Univ of Washington math grad program >> > >> > See attached picture from the last booth, which has the CoCalc and Sage >> > banners. >> > People come by and often talk with us about Sage, get Sage stickers, >> > etc. >> > Prospective grad students often start asking me about UW. >> > Of course people also talk with us about CoCalc too. >> > >> > Nobody is paid from Sage Foundation money to be at the booth -- Sage >> > foundation >> > just pays for some travel expenses and the booth rental. If you >> > genuinely think it would be >> > better for Sage for us to not have the booth at all, let me know, and >> > I'll consider >> > cancelling it, since it's a lot of work to travel and be exhausted day >> > after day by >> > questions... >> > >> > > For reference to newcomers, in the past there was discussion of >> > > setting up a >> > > "proper" Sage Foundation under US (or other) nonprofit law but William >> > > ... >> > >> > More specifically, two years ago, I talked with a competent lawyer who >> > advised me that setting up a not-for-profit for a software project >> > is a complete nonstarter with the IRS these days. That wasn't the >> > case in the past, >> > but it was in 2016. I'm personally not going to pursue this further. >> > If somebody >> > else wants to, the community will I hope be supportive of their effort. >> >> I would suggest, rather, seeing about applying for Sage to join the >> NumFocus organization: https://numfocus.org/ >> >> That always seemed the obvious thing to me, but maybe I'm missing >> something. However, once I did learn that the Sage Foundation is a >> thing that exists, it seemed at least less necessary since we were >> already getting that kind of support from UW. But if we ever lose >> that, that would seem the way to go. And I believe there has been an >> effort started recently to establish a NumFocus organization in Europe >> as well, IIRC. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "sage-devel" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- William (http://wstein.org) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
