On September 9, 2025 4:16:29 PM CDT, Enrique Artal <[email protected]> 
wrote:
>I was having issues with segfaults in the tests. They disappear after 
>uninstalling bliss system package.

Do you see system bliss picked up to use with Sage at build time?

If so, it's a bug in your distro, I suppose.
Can you tell what OS and what bliss version ir is?

>
>El lunes, 8 de septiembre de 2025 a las 6:20:27 UTC+2, Enrique Artal 
>escribió:
>
>> Same results with make maintainer-clean. 
>>
>> El domingo, 7 de septiembre de 2025 a las 22:55:45 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik 
>> escribió:
>>
>>> for this beta, I'd certainly do "make sagelib-clean sagelib-uninstall" 
>>> before trying it out
>>>
>>>
>>> AFAIK, .egg files are something deprecated long ago, why would they keep 
>>> popping up?
>>>
>>>
>>> On September 7, 2025 3:50:30 PM CDT, Enrique Artal <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *.egg is not and old artefact, it comes from this build. What I meant 
>>>> for "classical" is:
>>>>
>>>>    - I made an incremental build, not starting from the beginning.
>>>>    - I used the order make.
>>>>    - All this process is done as a regular user, not as root, and 
>>>>    without using sudo
>>>>
>>>> The jupyter kernel as a folder sagemath is then installed in 
>>>> .local/share/jupyter/kernel of the user home. If I run sage -n jupyterlab 
>>>> with this user, it is OK. If I run from jupyter lab I get the error of the 
>>>> previous message. For a personal installation is OK, but I find useful in 
>>>> general to use sage in a system jupyter installation (which was possible 
>>>> at 
>>>> least till 10.8beta0).
>>>> Enrique.
>>>>
>>>> El domingo, 7 de septiembre de 2025 a las 22:39:30 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik 
>>>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> Please note that in this beta the meaning of "classical build" has 
>>>>> changed, in the sense that sagelib is built with the meson backend (and 
>>>>> not 
>>>>> setuptools).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus the discrepancy with classical/meson builds is now merely the 
>>>>> nature of the build/run environment; the classical one coming from sage 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> distro, and the rest (venvs coming from e.g. conda or uv, or just python 
>>>>> -m 
>>>>> venv,
>>>>> or a no-venv, as if you do "pip install" or "python -m build" as root, 
>>>>> or perhaps running "pip install --user", with the result going into 
>>>>> ~/.local/).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that *.egg is an old artefact, from previous builds (should be clear 
>>>>> from its date, as reported by ls -l) ?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, it can be removed and it won't reappear.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On September 7, 2025 2:20:24 PM CDT, Enrique Artal <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I get also sagemath.egg-info. I could build it but jupyter only works 
>>>>>> with sage -n jupyter(lab). With external jupyter lab I get:
>>>>>> [I 2025-09-07 21:17:39.870 ServerApp] AsyncIOLoopKernelRestarter: 
>>>>>> restarting kernel (5/5), new random ports 
>>>>>> /usr/bin/python3: Error while finding module specification for 
>>>>>> 'sage.repl.ipython_kernel' (ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'sage')
>>>>>> I am using classical build, in case it matters, and I did not start 
>>>>>> from scratch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As predicted by Dima, the problems with sagelib have gone.
>>>>>> Enrique.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El domingo, 7 de septiembre de 2025 a las 20:22:54 UTC+2, John H 
>>>>>> Palmieri escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After running `./bootstrap` and `./configure`, the git repo is not 
>>>>>>> clean:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> % git status
>>>>>>> On branch develop
>>>>>>> Your branch is up to date with 'upstream/develop'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Untracked files:
>>>>>>>   (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed)
>>>>>>> sagemath.egg-info/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nothing added to commit but untracked files present (use "git add" to 
>>>>>>> track)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 8:39:15 AM UTC-7 Volker Braun wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" 
>>>>>>>> git branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at 
>>>>>>>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1f459003e01 (tag: 10.8.beta2, github/develop) Updated SageMath 
>>>>>>>> version to 10.8.beta2
>>>>>>>> 287c8b49970 gh-40761: src/sage/plot/plot.py: fix random test failure
>>>>>>>> 153864ba088 gh-40757: various pep8 fixes in groups/
>>>>>>>> 90d2653d7c1 gh-40753: Handle aliased functions and methods in 
>>>>>>>> generated documentation
>>>>>>>> bc7c98a6d96 gh-40749: small cleanup of the file splitting_algebra.py
>>>>>>>> 02dee9fca6f gh-40748: moving the _pseudo_fraction_field method to 
>>>>>>>> categories
>>>>>>>> d542c6ac74a gh-40747: fix some wrong syntax
>>>>>>>> 89d02402cbd gh-40745: pythran's version_requirements.txt
>>>>>>>> f54f0eff0e9 gh-40743: add type annotations "-> str" in algebras/
>>>>>>>> 86a06a248d3 gh-40737: Speed up the maxima _commands() list
>>>>>>>> ab8ee47af5f gh-40736: Clean up symbolic min max doctests
>>>>>>>> 79623d05bfa gh-40731: Hide spurious stderr output in 
>>>>>>>> notebook_cmd_test.py
>>>>>>>> e1a36723c5b gh-40730: fix issue in method delete_vertices for 
>>>>>>>> bipartite graphs
>>>>>>>> 95518b8d9b1 gh-40725: some fixes for ruff SIM warnings
>>>>>>>> 41fbe031ebb gh-40724: finding more deprecated stuff
>>>>>>>> f1657543215 gh-40723: fix some ruff PERF in rings/
>>>>>>>> 63c9ba7591a gh-40722: Update pillow
>>>>>>>> f5f876ac3e2 gh-40720: fix ruff PERF in schemes
>>>>>>>> 273073b00b8 gh-40719: implement the method "is_left_modular" for 
>>>>>>>> lattices
>>>>>>>> 8aed6f7634a gh-40718: Speed up random_element of finite field
>>>>>>>> 1ad3f20c0c2 gh-40717: Fix enumerating the same cycle twice in 
>>>>>>>> undirected graph
>>>>>>>> eb7e296b908 gh-40713: Improve FiniteField_givaroElement
>>>>>>>> 7a2ef2fa7de gh-40711: remove some deprecations in matrix2
>>>>>>>> da0856bc51f gh-40710: Allow calling is_perfect() on immutable graphs
>>>>>>>> fbe24d6ccb6 gh-40709: Fix release dist workflow
>>>>>>>> 1cfd52c0048 gh-40708: make sure _prereq etc are installed in the 
>>>>>>>> docker images
>>>>>>>> 581ee828479 gh-40707: src/sage/symbolic/integration/integral.py: 
>>>>>>>> delete a few giac doctests
>>>>>>>> be7b46b9d07 gh-40704: Fix one more optional test
>>>>>>>> ce49ea0b383 gh-40703: trying to get rid of some CommutativeRing
>>>>>>>> 454957a41bc gh-40696: Add one "long time" annotation
>>>>>>>> 7b58bd07cfa gh-40694: Fix test failure from #40435
>>>>>>>> 582f3b57b1a gh-40692: Make update-meson.py script compatible with 
>>>>>>>> meson 1.9
>>>>>>>> 7d21cd498a4 gh-40688: check for presense of the patch utility
>>>>>>>> 0fe4c81736e gh-40685: cython-lint cleanup in modules folder
>>>>>>>> e9f3727fba9 gh-40677: src/sage/libs/gap: move a few tests to pytest
>>>>>>>> 5e10ce7ee5f gh-40672: src/sage/doctest/sources.py: add "long time" 
>>>>>>>> for two tests
>>>>>>>> 9ba29896518 gh-40666: is_commutative for coxeter3
>>>>>>>> 65ec4582b56 gh-40650: Add LinBox algorithm for right kernel of 
>>>>>>>> sparse matrix over the rationals
>>>>>>>> 5eacee00b73 gh-40648: Replaced all instances of <RingElement> with 
>>>>>>>> <Element>
>>>>>>>> 4617f2fa5b8 gh-40638: Method to add multiples of a matrix row to 
>>>>>>>> another, ending at some column index
>>>>>>>> 3f9330174a9 gh-40609: Improve shell code formatting in docs
>>>>>>>> 329257f750d gh-40592: Update `uv.lock`
>>>>>>>> 690c2f0a746 gh-40586: Revive doc-release
>>>>>>>> d0ec6636908 gh-40568: fixes in spkg-configure.m4's
>>>>>>>> 1c99c11a01e gh-40401: Implement Square Roots to FiniteFields Category
>>>>>>>> 9096302c394 gh-40370: Interface for Regina (3-manifold topology and 
>>>>>>>> normal surface theory)
>>>>>>>> 59a67bb558b gh-40317: Implement partial integer factorization using 
>>>>>>>> flint
>>>>>>>> edb1ce9ad86 gh-40279: Fix RealLiteral to float conversion
>>>>>>>> d953568245f gh-40273: Avoid PariError on finite field construction
>>>>>>>> 09f397adb55 gh-39876: Faster implementation of is_invertible() by 
>>>>>>>> checking full rank
>>>>>>>> a6c35260a98 gh-39753: move tree generation methods to 
>>>>>>>> `src/sage/graphs/generators/trees.pyx`
>>>>>>>> ad2bb305be7 gh-39030: Use meson in sage-the-distro
>>>>>>>> 7fb3aaf5d74 gh-36773: Raise a power series to a power series
>>>>>>>> 4cdd703f8b3 (tag: 10.8.beta1) Updated SageMath version to 10.8.beta1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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