System bliss is picked up, I am in Fedora 42, Bliss version is 0.77 as in 
sage.

I think you are right, at some point I also disabled to use system gap for 
some segfaults.

El martes, 9 de septiembre de 2025 a las 23:54:33 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik 
escribió:

>
>
> On September 9, 2025 4:16:29 PM CDT, Enrique Artal <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >I was having issues with segfaults in the tests. They disappear after 
> >uninstalling bliss system package.
>
> Do you see system bliss picked up to use with Sage at build time?
>
> If so, it's a bug in your distro, I suppose.
> Can you tell what OS and what bliss version ir is?
>
> >
> >El lunes, 8 de septiembre de 2025 a las 6:20:27 UTC+2, Enrique Artal 
> >escribió:
> >
> >> Same results with make maintainer-clean. 
> >>
> >> El domingo, 7 de septiembre de 2025 a las 22:55:45 UTC+2, Dima 
> Pasechnik 
> >> escribió:
> >>
> >>> for this beta, I'd certainly do "make sagelib-clean sagelib-uninstall" 
> >>> before trying it out
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> AFAIK, .egg files are something deprecated long ago, why would they 
> keep 
> >>> popping up?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On September 7, 2025 3:50:30 PM CDT, Enrique Artal <
> [email protected]> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> *.egg is not and old artefact, it comes from this build. What I meant 
> >>>> for "classical" is:
> >>>>
> >>>> - I made an incremental build, not starting from the beginning.
> >>>> - I used the order make.
> >>>> - All this process is done as a regular user, not as root, and 
> >>>> without using sudo
> >>>>
> >>>> The jupyter kernel as a folder sagemath is then installed in 
> >>>> .local/share/jupyter/kernel of the user home. If I run sage -n 
> jupyterlab 
> >>>> with this user, it is OK. If I run from jupyter lab I get the error 
> of the 
> >>>> previous message. For a personal installation is OK, but I find 
> useful in 
> >>>> general to use sage in a system jupyter installation (which was 
> possible at 
> >>>> least till 10.8beta0).
> >>>> Enrique.
> >>>>
> >>>> El domingo, 7 de septiembre de 2025 a las 22:39:30 UTC+2, Dima 
> Pasechnik 
> >>>> escribió:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Please note that in this beta the meaning of "classical build" has 
> >>>>> changed, in the sense that sagelib is built with the meson backend 
> (and not 
> >>>>> setuptools).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thus the discrepancy with classical/meson builds is now merely the 
> >>>>> nature of the build/run environment; the classical one coming from 
> sage the 
> >>>>> distro, and the rest (venvs coming from e.g. conda or uv, or just 
> python -m 
> >>>>> venv,
> >>>>> or a no-venv, as if you do "pip install" or "python -m build" as 
> root, 
> >>>>> or perhaps running "pip install --user", with the result going into 
> >>>>> ~/.local/).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is that *.egg is an old artefact, from previous builds (should be 
> clear 
> >>>>> from its date, as reported by ls -l) ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If so, it can be removed and it won't reappear.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On September 7, 2025 2:20:24 PM CDT, Enrique Artal <
> [email protected]> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I get also sagemath.egg-info. I could build it but jupyter only 
> works 
> >>>>>> with sage -n jupyter(lab). With external jupyter lab I get:
> >>>>>> [I 2025-09-07 21:17:39.870 ServerApp] AsyncIOLoopKernelRestarter: 
> >>>>>> restarting kernel (5/5), new random ports 
> >>>>>> /usr/bin/python3: Error while finding module specification for 
> >>>>>> 'sage.repl.ipython_kernel' (ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 
> 'sage')
> >>>>>> I am using classical build, in case it matters, and I did not start 
> >>>>>> from scratch.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As predicted by Dima, the problems with sagelib have gone.
> >>>>>> Enrique.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> El domingo, 7 de septiembre de 2025 a las 20:22:54 UTC+2, John H 
> >>>>>> Palmieri escribió:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> After running `./bootstrap` and `./configure`, the git repo is not 
> >>>>>>> clean:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> % git status
> >>>>>>> On branch develop
> >>>>>>> Your branch is up to date with 'upstream/develop'.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Untracked files:
> >>>>>>> (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed)
> >>>>>>> sagemath.egg-info/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> nothing added to commit but untracked files present (use "git add" 
> to 
> >>>>>>> track)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 8:39:15 AM UTC-7 Volker Braun 
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" 
> >>>>>>>> git branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is 
> at 
> >>>>>>>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html 
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1f459003e01 (tag: 10.8.beta2, github/develop) Updated SageMath 
> >>>>>>>> version to 10.8.beta2
> >>>>>>>> 287c8b49970 gh-40761: src/sage/plot/plot.py: fix random test 
> failure
> >>>>>>>> 153864ba088 gh-40757: various pep8 fixes in groups/
> >>>>>>>> 90d2653d7c1 gh-40753: Handle aliased functions and methods in 
> >>>>>>>> generated documentation
> >>>>>>>> bc7c98a6d96 gh-40749: small cleanup of the file 
> splitting_algebra.py
> >>>>>>>> 02dee9fca6f gh-40748: moving the _pseudo_fraction_field method to 
> >>>>>>>> categories
> >>>>>>>> d542c6ac74a gh-40747: fix some wrong syntax
> >>>>>>>> 89d02402cbd gh-40745: pythran's version_requirements.txt
> >>>>>>>> f54f0eff0e9 gh-40743: add type annotations "-> str" in algebras/
> >>>>>>>> 86a06a248d3 gh-40737: Speed up the maxima _commands() list
> >>>>>>>> ab8ee47af5f gh-40736: Clean up symbolic min max doctests
> >>>>>>>> 79623d05bfa gh-40731: Hide spurious stderr output in 
> >>>>>>>> notebook_cmd_test.py
> >>>>>>>> e1a36723c5b gh-40730: fix issue in method delete_vertices for 
> >>>>>>>> bipartite graphs
> >>>>>>>> 95518b8d9b1 gh-40725: some fixes for ruff SIM warnings
> >>>>>>>> 41fbe031ebb gh-40724: finding more deprecated stuff
> >>>>>>>> f1657543215 gh-40723: fix some ruff PERF in rings/
> >>>>>>>> 63c9ba7591a gh-40722: Update pillow
> >>>>>>>> f5f876ac3e2 gh-40720: fix ruff PERF in schemes
> >>>>>>>> 273073b00b8 gh-40719: implement the method "is_left_modular" for 
> >>>>>>>> lattices
> >>>>>>>> 8aed6f7634a gh-40718: Speed up random_element of finite field
> >>>>>>>> 1ad3f20c0c2 gh-40717: Fix enumerating the same cycle twice in 
> >>>>>>>> undirected graph
> >>>>>>>> eb7e296b908 gh-40713: Improve FiniteField_givaroElement
> >>>>>>>> 7a2ef2fa7de gh-40711: remove some deprecations in matrix2
> >>>>>>>> da0856bc51f gh-40710: Allow calling is_perfect() on immutable 
> graphs
> >>>>>>>> fbe24d6ccb6 gh-40709: Fix release dist workflow
> >>>>>>>> 1cfd52c0048 gh-40708: make sure _prereq etc are installed in the 
> >>>>>>>> docker images
> >>>>>>>> 581ee828479 gh-40707: src/sage/symbolic/integration/integral.py: 
> >>>>>>>> delete a few giac doctests
> >>>>>>>> be7b46b9d07 gh-40704: Fix one more optional test
> >>>>>>>> ce49ea0b383 gh-40703: trying to get rid of some CommutativeRing
> >>>>>>>> 454957a41bc gh-40696: Add one "long time" annotation
> >>>>>>>> 7b58bd07cfa gh-40694: Fix test failure from #40435
> >>>>>>>> 582f3b57b1a gh-40692: Make update-meson.py script compatible with 
> >>>>>>>> meson 1.9
> >>>>>>>> 7d21cd498a4 gh-40688: check for presense of the patch utility
> >>>>>>>> 0fe4c81736e gh-40685: cython-lint cleanup in modules folder
> >>>>>>>> e9f3727fba9 gh-40677: src/sage/libs/gap: move a few tests to 
> pytest
> >>>>>>>> 5e10ce7ee5f gh-40672: src/sage/doctest/sources.py: add "long 
> time" 
> >>>>>>>> for two tests
> >>>>>>>> 9ba29896518 gh-40666: is_commutative for coxeter3
> >>>>>>>> 65ec4582b56 gh-40650: Add LinBox algorithm for right kernel of 
> >>>>>>>> sparse matrix over the rationals
> >>>>>>>> 5eacee00b73 gh-40648: Replaced all instances of <RingElement> 
> with 
> >>>>>>>> <Element>
> >>>>>>>> 4617f2fa5b8 gh-40638: Method to add multiples of a matrix row to 
> >>>>>>>> another, ending at some column index
> >>>>>>>> 3f9330174a9 gh-40609: Improve shell code formatting in docs
> >>>>>>>> 329257f750d gh-40592: Update `uv.lock`
> >>>>>>>> 690c2f0a746 gh-40586: Revive doc-release
> >>>>>>>> d0ec6636908 gh-40568: fixes in spkg-configure.m4's
> >>>>>>>> 1c99c11a01e gh-40401: Implement Square Roots to FiniteFields 
> Category
> >>>>>>>> 9096302c394 gh-40370: Interface for Regina (3-manifold topology 
> and 
> >>>>>>>> normal surface theory)
> >>>>>>>> 59a67bb558b gh-40317: Implement partial integer factorization 
> using 
> >>>>>>>> flint
> >>>>>>>> edb1ce9ad86 gh-40279: Fix RealLiteral to float conversion
> >>>>>>>> d953568245f gh-40273: Avoid PariError on finite field construction
> >>>>>>>> 09f397adb55 gh-39876: Faster implementation of is_invertible() by 
> >>>>>>>> checking full rank
> >>>>>>>> a6c35260a98 gh-39753: move tree generation methods to 
> >>>>>>>> `src/sage/graphs/generators/trees.pyx`
> >>>>>>>> ad2bb305be7 gh-39030: Use meson in sage-the-distro
> >>>>>>>> 7fb3aaf5d74 gh-36773: Raise a power series to a power series
> >>>>>>>> 4cdd703f8b3 (tag: 10.8.beta1) Updated SageMath version to 
> 10.8.beta1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
>

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