Make distclean is working well.

After ./boostrap and ./configure, make build is still failing at the same point 
:(

 

> Le 8 sept. 2025 à 17:37, Dima Pasechnik <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 7:38 AM David Coudert <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> On fedora 39, after a make distclean, I get
> 
> Do you mean to say that "make distclean" is broken?
> After an major update, please run ./bootstrap and ./configure first of all.
> 
> Makefiles could've changed, configure scripts could've changed.
> Expecting that a relatively nontrivial make target will work correctly
> without ./bootstrap && ./configure is a wishful thinking.
> 
> To clean without invoking make, run something like "git clean -fdx"
> (although it cleans more, including everything in upstream/)
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Setting up build directory 
>> /home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/var/tmp/sage/build/sagelib-10.8.beta2
>> 
>> Host system: Linux gelati 6.6.4-200.fc39.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun 
>> Dec  3 18:13:11 UTC 2023 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>> 
>> C compiler: gcc, Using built-in specs., COLLECT_GCC=gcc, 
>> COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/13/lto-wrapper, 
>> OFFLOAD_TARGET_NAMES=nvptx-none, OFFLOAD_TARGET_DEFAULT=1, Target: 
>> x86_64-redha
>> 
>> t-linux, Configured with: ../configure --enable-bootstrap 
>> --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++,ada,go,d,m2,lto --prefix=/usr 
>> --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-bugurl=http://bugz
>> 
>> illa.redhat.com/bugzilla --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix 
>> --enable-checking=release --enable-multilib --with-system-zlib 
>> --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-libunwind-exceptions 
>> --enable-gnu-unique-object --
>> 
>> enable-linker-build-id --with-gcc-major-version-only 
>> --enable-libstdcxx-backtrace --with-libstdcxx-zoneinfo=/usr/share/zoneinfo 
>> --with-linker-hash-style=gnu --enable-plugin --enable-initfini-array 
>> --with-isl=/
>> 
>> builddir/build/BUILD/gcc-13.2.1-20231205/obj-x86_64-redhat-linux/isl-install 
>> --enable-offload-targets=nvptx-none --without-cuda-driver 
>> --enable-offload-defaulted --enable-gnu-indirect-function --enable-cet --w
>> 
>> ith-tune=generic --with-arch_32=i686 --build=x86_64-redhat-linux 
>> --with-build-config=bootstrap-lto --enable-link-serialization=1, Thread 
>> model: posix, Supported LTO compression algorithms: zlib zstd, gcc versi
>> 
>> on 13.2.1 20231205 (Red Hat 13.2.1-6) (GCC)
>> 
>> No stamp file for package 'sagelib' in 
>> /home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/var/lib/sage/installed
>> 
>> No spkg-legacy-uninstall script; nothing to do
>> 
>> [spkg-install] Installing sagelib-10.8.beta2 (editable mode)
>> 
>> [spkg-install] Using pip 24.2 from 
>> /home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/lib64/python3.12/site-packages/pip
>>  (python 3.12)
>> 
>> [spkg-install] Obtaining file:///home/dcoudert/sage
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Checking if build backend supports build_editable: started
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Running command Checking if build backend supports 
>> build_editable
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Checking if build backend supports build_editable: finished 
>> with status 'done'
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Preparing editable metadata (pyproject.toml): started
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Running command Preparing editable metadata (pyproject.toml)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   + meson setup /home/dcoudert/sage 
>> /home/dcoudert/sage/build/sage-distro -Dbuildtype=release 
>> -Db_ndebug=if-release -Db_vscrt=md --default-library=static 
>> -DSAGE_LOCAL=/home/dcoudert/sage/local -
>> 
>> -native-file=/home/dcoudert/sage/build/sage-distro/meson-python-native-file.ini
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   The Meson build system
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Version: 1.8.3
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Source dir: /home/dcoudert/sage
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Build dir: /home/dcoudert/sage/build/sage-distro
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Build type: native build
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Project name: SageMath
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Project version: 10.8.beta2
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   C compiler for the host machine: gcc (gcc 13.2.1 "gcc (GCC) 
>> 13.2.1 20231205 (Red Hat 13.2.1-6)")
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   C linker for the host machine: gcc ld.bfd 2.40-13
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   C++ compiler for the host machine: g++ -std=gnu++11 (gcc 
>> 13.2.1 "g++ (GCC) 13.2.1 20231205 (Red Hat 13.2.1-6)")
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   C++ linker for the host machine: g++ -std=gnu++11 ld.bfd 
>> 2.40-13
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Cython compiler for the host machine: cython (cython 3.1.3)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Host machine cpu family: x86_64
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Host machine cpu: x86_64
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Program python found: YES 
>> (/home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/bin/python3)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Found pkg-config: YES (/usr/bin/pkg-config) 1.9.5
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency python found: YES 3.12
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Program python (pytest) found: YES 
>> (/home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/bin/python3) 
>> modules: pytest
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   numpy-config found: YES 
>> (/home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/bin/numpy-config) 
>> 2.3.2
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency numpy found: YES 2.3.2
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency gmp found: YES 6.2.1
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Library pari found: YES
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency mpfr found: YES 4.2.0
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency flint found: YES 3.3.1
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Found CMake: /usr/bin/cmake (3.27.7)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency mkl found: NO (tried pkgconfig and 
>> cmake)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency cblas found: YES 0.3
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency gsl found: YES 2.7.1
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency gdlib found: YES 2.3.3
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Library m found: YES
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency m4ri found: YES 20250128
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency m4rie found: YES 20250128
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency mtx found: NO (tried pkgconfig and 
>> cmake)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Has header "meataxe.h" : NO
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency libpng found: YES 1.6.37
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency zlib found: YES 1.2.13
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency eclib found: YES 20250627
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Library ecm found: YES
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency gmpxx found: YES 6.2.1
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency fflas-ffpack found: YES 2.5.0
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency givaro found: YES 4.2.1
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency linbox found: YES 1.7.0
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Library mpc found: YES
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Library mpfi found: YES
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency libgap found: YES 4.14.0
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency singular found: YES 4.4.1
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Library ntl found: YES
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency Boost (found: graph | missing: tuple) 
>> found: NO (tried system)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency Boost (found: graph | missing: tuple) 
>> found: NO (tried system)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Message: Warning: The specified datadir does not contain 
>> the necessary Cremona database. Either specify a different datadir or 
>> specify a correct the correct path via the environment variable S
>> 
>> AGE_SHARE during runtime.
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Program ecl-config found: YES (/usr/bin/ecl-config)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency OpenMP found: YES 4.5
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Program gap found: YES (/home/dcoudert/sage/local/bin/gap)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Program gmp-ecm found: YES (/usr/bin/gmp-ecm)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency libsirocco found: NO (tried pkgconfig 
>> and cmake)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Library sirocco found: NO
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Library ecl found: YES
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Program ecl found: YES (/usr/bin/ecl)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Program maxima found: YES (/usr/bin/maxima)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Executing subproject maxima
>> 
>> [spkg-install]
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Project name: maxima
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Project version: undefined
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   maxima| C compiler for the host machine: gcc (gcc 13.2.1 
>> "gcc (GCC) 13.2.1 20231205 (Red Hat 13.2.1-6)")
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   maxima| C linker for the host machine: gcc ld.bfd 2.40-13
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   maxima| ../../subprojects/maxima-5.47.0/meson.build:5: 
>> WARNING: Module External build system has no backwards or forwards 
>> compatibility and might not exist in future releases.
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Program ecl found: YES (/usr/bin/ecl)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Program 
>> /home/dcoudert/sage/subprojects/maxima-5.47.0/configure found: YES (/bin/sh 
>> /home/dcoudert/sage/subprojects/maxima-5.47.0/configure)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Program make found: YES
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   maxima| External project maxima-5.47.0: configure
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Build targets in project: 9
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Subproject maxima finished.
>> 
>> [spkg-install]
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency libbraiding found: YES 1.3.1
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency bdw-gc-threaded found: NO (tried 
>> pkgconfig and cmake)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency bdw-gc found: YES 8.2.2
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency libhomfly found: NO (tried pkgconfig 
>> and cmake)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Has header "homfly.h" : YES
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Library homfly found: YES
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Library coxeter3 found: YES
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency lcalc found: YES 2.1.0
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency symmetrica found: NO (tried pkgconfig 
>> and cmake)
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Library symmetrica found: YES
>> 
>> [spkg-install]
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   ../../src/sage/ext/meson.build:31:0: ERROR: Nonexistent 
>> build file 'src/sage/ext/interpreters/meson.build'
>> 
>> [spkg-install]
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   A full log can be found at 
>> /home/dcoudert/sage/build/sage-distro/meson-logs/meson-log.txt
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   error: subprocess-exited-with-error
>> 
>> [spkg-install]
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   × Preparing editable metadata (pyproject.toml) did not run 
>> successfully.
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   │ exit code: 1
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   ╰─> See above for output.
>> 
>> [spkg-install]
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is 
>> likely not a problem with pip.
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   full command: 
>> /home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/bin/python3 
>> /home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/lib64/python3.12/site-packages/pip/_vendor/pyproject_hoo
>> 
>> ks/_in_process/_in_process.py prepare_metadata_for_build_editable 
>> /tmp/tmp449jlnvb
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   cwd: /home/dcoudert/sage
>> 
>> [spkg-install]   Preparing editable metadata (pyproject.toml): finished with 
>> status 'error'
>> 
>> [spkg-install] error: metadata-generation-failed
>> 
>> [spkg-install]
>> 
>> [spkg-install] × Encountered error while generating package metadata.
>> 
>> [spkg-install] ╰─> See above for output.
>> 
>> [spkg-install]
>> 
>> [spkg-install] note: This is an issue with the package mentioned above, not 
>> pip.
>> 
>> [spkg-install] hint: See above for details.
>> 
>> [spkg-install] 
>> **************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
>> 
>> ***************
>> 
>> [spkg-install] Error installing sagelib-10.8.beta2
>> 
>> [spkg-install] 
>> **************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
>> 
>> ***************
>> 
>> ************************************************************************
>> 
>> Error installing package sagelib-10.8.beta2
>> 
>> ************************************************************************
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Le 8 sept. 2025 à 13:53, '[email protected]' via sage-release 
>> <[email protected]> a écrit :
>> 
>> On Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS, I get
>> 
>> [pillow-11.3.0] WARNING [tarball|download:164]: Invalid checksum; ignoring 
>> cached file /home/martin/sage/upstream/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz
>> [pillow-11.3.0] Attempting to download package pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz from 
>> mirrors
>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/releases/download/10.8/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz
>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>> [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> [pillow-11.3.0] ERROR [transfer|run:135]: [Errno socket error] [Errno 404] 
>> Not Found: 
>> '//github.com/sagemath/sage/releases/download/10.8/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz'
>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/releases/download/10.7/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz
>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>> [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> [pillow-11.3.0] ERROR [transfer|run:135]: [Errno socket error] [Errno 404] 
>> Not Found: 
>> '//github.com/sagemath/sage/releases/download/10.7/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz'
>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/releases/download/10.6/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz
>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>> [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> [pillow-11.3.0] ERROR [transfer|run:135]: [Errno socket error] [Errno 404] 
>> Not Found: 
>> '//github.com/sagemath/sage/releases/download/10.6/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz'
>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>> https://mirror.dogado.de/sage/spkg/upstream/pillow/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz
>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>> [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> [pillow-11.3.0] ERROR [transfer|run:135]: [Errno socket error] [Errno 404] 
>> Not Found: 
>> '//mirror.dogado.de/sage/spkg/upstream/pillow/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz'
>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>> https://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/sagemath/spkg/upstream/pillow/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz
>> 
>> 
>> Martin
>> On Monday, 8 September 2025 at 06:27:52 UTC+2 John H Palmieri wrote:
>>> 
>>> I downloaded the source code from git and built from scratch, so this .egg 
>>> directory is new, absolutely not a remnant from a previous build.
>>> 
>>> I also see a lot of doctest failures (this is on OS X):
>>> 
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 src/sage/env.py  # 1 
>>> doctest failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/misc/sagedoc.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/schemes/generic/algebraic_scheme.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/schemes/curves/affine_curve.py  # 2 doctests failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 src/sage/plot/plot.py 
>>>  # 1 doctest failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/sandpiles/sandpile.py  # 9 doctests failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/doctest/test.py  # 24 doctests failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/tests/cmdline.py  # 8 doctests failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/repl/interpreter.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/libs/singular/function.pyx  # 2 doctests failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/rings/polynomial/polynomial_singular_interface.py  # 1 doctest 
>>> failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/rings/polynomial/multi_polynomial_ideal.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/geometry/hyperplane_arrangement/arrangement.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/geometry/hyperplane_arrangement/library.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/interfaces/singular.py  # 2 doctests failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/interfaces/maxima_lib.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/sage/interfaces/gap_workspace.py  # 2 doctests failed
>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>> src/doc/en/thematic_tutorials/sandpile.rst  # 6 doctests failed
>>> 
>>> Some are of this form:
>>> 
>>> **********************************************************************
>>> File "src/sage/env.py", line 22, in sage.env
>>> Failed example:
>>>    out = check_output([sys.executable, "-c", cmd], 
>>> env=env).decode().strip()   # long time
>>> Expected nothing
>>> Got:
>>>    ninja: warning: Ignoring jobserver: Pipe-based protocol is not 
>>> supported! [ --jobserver-fds=3,4 -j -- TEST_FLAGS=--long 
>>> TEST_TARGET=testlong]
>>> **********************************************************************
>>> 
>>> Others are because the output is printed in a different order, or with 
>>> different generators, or similar, than expected, such as:
>>> 
>>> **********************************************************************
>>> File "src/sage/schemes/generic/algebraic_scheme.py", line 1200, in 
>>> sage.schemes.generic.algebraic_scheme.AlgebraicScheme_subscheme.irreducible_components
>>> Failed example:
>>>    V.irreducible_components()                                            # 
>>> needs sage.libs.singular
>>> Expected:
>>>    [Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational Field 
>>> defined by:
>>>       w,
>>>     Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational Field 
>>> defined by:
>>>       x^2 - y^2 - z^2,
>>>     Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational Field 
>>> defined by:
>>>       x^2*z - v^3,
>>>     Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational Field 
>>> defined by:
>>>       w^5 - 2*z^3*v^2]
>>> Got:
>>>    [Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational Field 
>>> defined by:
>>>       -w^5 + 2*z^3*v^2,
>>>     Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational Field 
>>> defined by:
>>>       -x^2*z + v^3,
>>>     Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational Field 
>>> defined by:
>>>       -x^2 + y^2 + z^2,
>>>     Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational Field 
>>> defined by:
>>>       w]
>>> **********************************************************************
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 9:20:27 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Same results with make maintainer-clean.
>>>> 
>>>> El domingo, 7 de septiembre de 2025 a las 22:55:45 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik 
>>>> escribió:
>>>>> 
>>>>> for this beta, I'd certainly do "make sagelib-clean sagelib-uninstall" 
>>>>> before trying it out
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> AFAIK, .egg files are something deprecated long ago, why would they keep 
>>>>> popping up?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On September 7, 2025 3:50:30 PM CDT, Enrique Artal <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *.egg is not and old artefact, it comes from this build. What I meant 
>>>>>> for "classical" is:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I made an incremental build, not starting from the beginning.
>>>>>> I used the order make.
>>>>>> All this process is done as a regular user, not as root, and without 
>>>>>> using sudo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The jupyter kernel as a folder sagemath is then installed in 
>>>>>> .local/share/jupyter/kernel of the user home. If I run sage -n 
>>>>>> jupyterlab with this user, it is OK. If I run from jupyter lab I get the 
>>>>>> error of the previous message. For a personal installation is OK, but I 
>>>>>> find useful in general to use sage in a system jupyter installation 
>>>>>> (which was possible at least till 10.8beta0).
>>>>>> Enrique.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> El domingo, 7 de septiembre de 2025 a las 22:39:30 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik 
>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please note that in this beta the meaning of "classical build" has 
>>>>>>> changed, in the sense that sagelib is built with the meson backend (and 
>>>>>>> not setuptools).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thus the discrepancy with classical/meson builds is now merely the 
>>>>>>> nature of the build/run environment; the classical one coming from sage 
>>>>>>> the distro, and the rest (venvs coming from e.g. conda or uv, or just 
>>>>>>> python -m venv,
>>>>>>> or a no-venv, as if you do "pip install" or "python -m build" as root, 
>>>>>>> or perhaps running "pip install --user", with the result going into 
>>>>>>> ~/.local/).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is that *.egg is an old artefact, from previous builds (should be clear 
>>>>>>> from its date, as reported by ls -l) ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If so, it can be removed and it won't reappear.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On September 7, 2025 2:20:24 PM CDT, Enrique Artal 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I get also sagemath.egg-info. I could build it but jupyter only works 
>>>>>>>> with sage -n jupyter(lab). With external jupyter lab I get:
>>>>>>>> [I 2025-09-07 21:17:39.870 ServerApp] AsyncIOLoopKernelRestarter: 
>>>>>>>> restarting kernel (5/5), new random ports
>>>>>>>> /usr/bin/python3: Error while finding module specification for 
>>>>>>>> 'sage.repl.ipython_kernel' (ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 
>>>>>>>> 'sage')
>>>>>>>> I am using classical build, in case it matters, and I did not start 
>>>>>>>> from scratch.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As predicted by Dima, the problems with sagelib have gone.
>>>>>>>> Enrique.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> El domingo, 7 de septiembre de 2025 a las 20:22:54 UTC+2, John H 
>>>>>>>> Palmieri escribió:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> After running `./bootstrap` and `./configure`, the git repo is not 
>>>>>>>>> clean:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> % git status
>>>>>>>>> On branch develop
>>>>>>>>> Your branch is up to date with 'upstream/develop'.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Untracked files:
>>>>>>>>>  (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed)
>>>>>>>>> sagemath.egg-info/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> nothing added to commit but untracked files present (use "git add" to 
>>>>>>>>> track)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 8:39:15 AM UTC-7 Volker Braun wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" 
>>>>>>>>>> git branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 1f459003e01 (tag: 10.8.beta2, github/develop) Updated SageMath 
>>>>>>>>>> version to 10.8.beta2
>>>>>>>>>> 287c8b49970 gh-40761: src/sage/plot/plot.py: fix random test failure
>>>>>>>>>> 153864ba088 gh-40757: various pep8 fixes in groups/
>>>>>>>>>> 90d2653d7c1 gh-40753: Handle aliased functions and methods in 
>>>>>>>>>> generated documentation
>>>>>>>>>> bc7c98a6d96 gh-40749: small cleanup of the file splitting_algebra.py
>>>>>>>>>> 02dee9fca6f gh-40748: moving the _pseudo_fraction_field method to 
>>>>>>>>>> categories
>>>>>>>>>> d542c6ac74a gh-40747: fix some wrong syntax
>>>>>>>>>> 89d02402cbd gh-40745: pythran's version_requirements.txt
>>>>>>>>>> f54f0eff0e9 gh-40743: add type annotations "-> str" in algebras/
>>>>>>>>>> 86a06a248d3 gh-40737: Speed up the maxima _commands() list
>>>>>>>>>> ab8ee47af5f gh-40736: Clean up symbolic min max doctests
>>>>>>>>>> 79623d05bfa gh-40731: Hide spurious stderr output in 
>>>>>>>>>> notebook_cmd_test.py
>>>>>>>>>> e1a36723c5b gh-40730: fix issue in method delete_vertices for 
>>>>>>>>>> bipartite graphs
>>>>>>>>>> 95518b8d9b1 gh-40725: some fixes for ruff SIM warnings
>>>>>>>>>> 41fbe031ebb gh-40724: finding more deprecated stuff
>>>>>>>>>> f1657543215 gh-40723: fix some ruff PERF in rings/
>>>>>>>>>> 63c9ba7591a gh-40722: Update pillow
>>>>>>>>>> f5f876ac3e2 gh-40720: fix ruff PERF in schemes
>>>>>>>>>> 273073b00b8 gh-40719: implement the method "is_left_modular" for 
>>>>>>>>>> lattices
>>>>>>>>>> 8aed6f7634a gh-40718: Speed up random_element of finite field
>>>>>>>>>> 1ad3f20c0c2 gh-40717: Fix enumerating the same cycle twice in 
>>>>>>>>>> undirected graph
>>>>>>>>>> eb7e296b908 gh-40713: Improve FiniteField_givaroElement
>>>>>>>>>> 7a2ef2fa7de gh-40711: remove some deprecations in matrix2
>>>>>>>>>> da0856bc51f gh-40710: Allow calling is_perfect() on immutable graphs
>>>>>>>>>> fbe24d6ccb6 gh-40709: Fix release dist workflow
>>>>>>>>>> 1cfd52c0048 gh-40708: make sure _prereq etc are installed in the 
>>>>>>>>>> docker images
>>>>>>>>>> 581ee828479 gh-40707: src/sage/symbolic/integration/integral.py: 
>>>>>>>>>> delete a few giac doctests
>>>>>>>>>> be7b46b9d07 gh-40704: Fix one more optional test
>>>>>>>>>> ce49ea0b383 gh-40703: trying to get rid of some CommutativeRing
>>>>>>>>>> 454957a41bc gh-40696: Add one "long time" annotation
>>>>>>>>>> 7b58bd07cfa gh-40694: Fix test failure from #40435
>>>>>>>>>> 582f3b57b1a gh-40692: Make update-meson.py script compatible with 
>>>>>>>>>> meson 1.9
>>>>>>>>>> 7d21cd498a4 gh-40688: check for presense of the patch utility
>>>>>>>>>> 0fe4c81736e gh-40685: cython-lint cleanup in modules folder
>>>>>>>>>> e9f3727fba9 gh-40677: src/sage/libs/gap: move a few tests to pytest
>>>>>>>>>> 5e10ce7ee5f gh-40672: src/sage/doctest/sources.py: add "long time" 
>>>>>>>>>> for two tests
>>>>>>>>>> 9ba29896518 gh-40666: is_commutative for coxeter3
>>>>>>>>>> 65ec4582b56 gh-40650: Add LinBox algorithm for right kernel of 
>>>>>>>>>> sparse matrix over the rationals
>>>>>>>>>> 5eacee00b73 gh-40648: Replaced all instances of <RingElement> with 
>>>>>>>>>> <Element>
>>>>>>>>>> 4617f2fa5b8 gh-40638: Method to add multiples of a matrix row to 
>>>>>>>>>> another, ending at some column index
>>>>>>>>>> 3f9330174a9 gh-40609: Improve shell code formatting in docs
>>>>>>>>>> 329257f750d gh-40592: Update `uv.lock`
>>>>>>>>>> 690c2f0a746 gh-40586: Revive doc-release
>>>>>>>>>> d0ec6636908 gh-40568: fixes in spkg-configure.m4's
>>>>>>>>>> 1c99c11a01e gh-40401: Implement Square Roots to FiniteFields Category
>>>>>>>>>> 9096302c394 gh-40370: Interface for Regina (3-manifold topology and 
>>>>>>>>>> normal surface theory)
>>>>>>>>>> 59a67bb558b gh-40317: Implement partial integer factorization using 
>>>>>>>>>> flint
>>>>>>>>>> edb1ce9ad86 gh-40279: Fix RealLiteral to float conversion
>>>>>>>>>> d953568245f gh-40273: Avoid PariError on finite field construction
>>>>>>>>>> 09f397adb55 gh-39876: Faster implementation of is_invertible() by 
>>>>>>>>>> checking full rank
>>>>>>>>>> a6c35260a98 gh-39753: move tree generation methods to 
>>>>>>>>>> `src/sage/graphs/generators/trees.pyx`
>>>>>>>>>> ad2bb305be7 gh-39030: Use meson in sage-the-distro
>>>>>>>>>> 7fb3aaf5d74 gh-36773: Raise a power series to a power series
>>>>>>>>>> 4cdd703f8b3 (tag: 10.8.beta1) Updated SageMath version to 10.8.beta1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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