I would claim there is a space before every hostID - probably the sign
of the number.
Same with timeout and probably any other "signed" variables. 

I import/export all the time and once I figure out the pattern for a
setting, it works fine.  I use Access - much more reliable for that
purpose. just call it tab delimited and make every field text. 

Would be nice to have a decoder sheet for the various fields though.

Pete Turner


-----Original Message-----
From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Suggestions


Weird, if you would look at the source code (something I can do :-)) you
would see that we put TABS in it and not spaces.


Dirk.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Jack Lyons
Sent: Fri Jun 14 8:30 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Suggestions


try viewing it an editor that will show you the whitespace characters

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 2:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Suggestions
>
>
> Those are TABs I can assure you.
>
>
> Dirk.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Sutherland, Bryon
> Sent: Fri Jun 14 5:32 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Suggestions
>
>
> There are spaces in the file that are not part of a text string, the 
> line below is from my servers.txt:
>
> pscdalpcshare10                80      10     true    ...
>
> If you run your cursor through it you'll see that it looks like this:
>
> pscdalpcshare10TABTABSpace80TABSpace10TABtrue
>
> The 80 is the port check, and 10 the timeout (as far as I can figure).

> I haven't tested using just one line and removing one space,
> but I can tell
> you that saving the file as a TSV from Excel won't work.  I
> printed out the
> Excel version and the SA version and laid one on top of the
> other, shown a
> bright light through them, and the only difference that I
> could see were the
> spaces.
>
>
> On the other point, Warning shouldn't be a problem.  If someone is 
> just reconfiguring they probably aren't going to mind being
> warned.  I doubt
> anyone does massive reconfiguration of checks (unlike timeout
> intervals,
> etc).
>
> Anyway, these are my suggestions.  You certainly aren't any pressure 
> to adopt them, but I figured that you'd value user feedback.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:18 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Suggestions
>
>
> The file is only tab delimited.  IF there are spaces in it, then it's 
> for example within the body text of the mails that should be send
> OR within the
> subject of the mail.  Not much to do about that.
>
> How can we warn about the 2nd check?  It could well be that you no 
> longer need the original check and just are re-configuring. Allowing
> several checks
> within one entry is something that we don't want to do.  Our
> idea is that
> each check can have it's own alerts; and if you add several
> checks to one
> entry this is no longer the case.
>
>
>
> Dirk.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Sutherland, Bryon
> Sent: Fri Jun 14 5:13 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: [SA-list] Suggestions
>
>
> I have a couple of suggestions that I think would be simple to 
> implement and make SA into an even better product.
>
> 1.  If you are attempting to add a second type of check to a single 
> entry it should warn you that you are about to remove the first check.
>  Found that
> out the hard way.  Each type of check for a server (ex: URL,
> Drive Space,
> etc) have to be a separate entry.
>
> An obvious alternative to the warning would be allowing multiple types

> of checks for each entry.
>
> 2.  The servers.txt configuration file looks like it's Tab-delimited, 
> but that's not exactly true.  I opened it up in Excel because I
> wanted to make a
> specific change to all of my entries, and when I saved it back as a
> tab-delimited file SA wouldn't work with it.  I eventually
> realized that the
> file has spaces in strategic places.  I would *love* if the
> file were purely
> tab (comma, or whatever) delimited so I could make massive
> changes with
> Excel instead of opening each entry one-at-a-time in the GUI.
>  Even better
> would be a line across the top that told us exactly what the
> fields were so
> there'd be no guessing.  I believe others may have requested something
> similar.
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