I doubt it - try it. Leave the space that is there. It won't be in the config file for Server name or Pretty name. It will be there for HostID.
It's a little hard to tell with notepad, but a good editor like Ultraedit will show where the spaces are. I still claim the cause is the formatting picture ( or lack of ) used by SA to write the line to the file. In something like the Access or VB immediate pane try the following: X =99 ?X You will get: 99 Now try X=-99 ( that is XEqualsMinus99 ) ?X You will get -99 In the first, the space is the implied sign of the number so it will line up in a column. If you don't want that space you need to use ?Format(X) If you retrieve the file into Excel as a tab delimited then save it back out, Excel strips out the space. And for whatever reason, SA will choke on the file. Using Excel for that purpose is like using a screwdriver to pound nails. It might work if you are truly determined but there are much better tools available. That is why I suggest that if you want to bulk change anything in SA's config file you need to use Access (or similar) and make each field TEXT. If there is a leading space then it will stay put. Like I say, have done this numerous times to sort and rearrange and use different files for various watch scenarios. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 2:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SA-list] Suggestions That could be it. Dirk. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of doubleu Sent: Sat Jun 15 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SA-list] Suggestions Does it have anything to do with the fact that when you add a new host, and click in the host name box, pretty name box, or host ID box, that there is actually a space in those fields initially? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Turner, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 3:00pm Subject: RE: [SA-list] Suggestions I would claim there is a space before every hostID - probably the sign of the number. Same with timeout and probably any other "signed" variables. I import/export all the time and once I figure out the pattern for a setting, it works fine. I use Access - much more reliable for that purpose. just call it tab delimited and make every field text. Would be nice to have a decoder sheet for the various fields though. Pete Turner -----Original Message----- From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SA-list] Suggestions Weird, if you would look at the source code (something I can do :-)) you would see that we put TABS in it and not spaces. Dirk. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jack Lyons Sent: Fri Jun 14 8:30 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [SA-list] Suggestions try viewing it an editor that will show you the whitespace characters > -----Original Message----- > From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 2:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SA-list] Suggestions > > > Those are TABs I can assure you. > > > Dirk. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Sutherland, Bryon > Sent: Fri Jun 14 5:32 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [SA-list] Suggestions > > > There are spaces in the file that are not part of a text string, the > line below is from my servers.txt: > > pscdalpcshare10 80 10 true ... > > If you run your cursor through it you'll see that it looks like this: > > pscdalpcshare10TABTABSpace80TABSpace10TABtrue > > The 80 is the port check, and 10 the timeout (as far as I can figure). > I haven't tested using just one line and removing one space, but I can > tell you that saving the file as a TSV from Excel won't work. I > printed out the > Excel version and the SA version and laid one on top of the > other, shown a > bright light through them, and the only difference that I > could see were the > spaces. > > > On the other point, Warning shouldn't be a problem. If someone is > just reconfiguring they probably aren't going to mind being warned. I > doubt anyone does massive reconfiguration of checks (unlike timeout > intervals, > etc). > > Anyway, these are my suggestions. You certainly aren't any pressure > to adopt them, but I figured that you'd value user feedback. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:18 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SA-list] Suggestions > > > The file is only tab delimited. IF there are spaces in it, then it's > for example within the body text of the mails that should be send OR > within the subject of the mail. Not much to do about that. > > How can we warn about the 2nd check? It could well be that you no > longer need the original check and just are re-configuring. Allowing > several checks within one entry is something that we don't want to do. > Our idea is that > each check can have it's own alerts; and if you add several > checks to one > entry this is no longer the case. > > > > Dirk. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Sutherland, Bryon > Sent: Fri Jun 14 5:13 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: [SA-list] Suggestions > > > I have a couple of suggestions that I think would be simple to > implement and make SA into an even better product. > > 1. If you are attempting to add a second type of check to a single > entry it should warn you that you are about to remove the first check. > Found that out the hard way. Each type of check for a server (ex: > URL, Drive Space, > etc) have to be a separate entry. > > An obvious alternative to the warning would be allowing multiple types > of checks for each entry. > > 2. The servers.txt configuration file looks like it's Tab-delimited, > but that's not exactly true. I opened it up in Excel because I wanted > to make a specific change to all of my entries, and when I saved it > back as a tab-delimited file SA wouldn't work with it. I eventually > realized that the > file has spaces in strategic places. I would *love* if the > file were purely > tab (comma, or whatever) delimited so I could make massive > changes with > Excel instead of opening each entry one-at-a-time in the GUI. > Even better > would be a line across the top that told us exactly what the > fields were so > there'd be no guessing. 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