agreed. It points out a few things. One, that every generation there's a man or 
woman who can reach those still young and idealistic enough to believe that a 
true change is a-comin: the Kennedy's, Bill Clinton, now Obama.  Two, the only 
problem is that sometimes the young and idealistic don't stay all the way to 
the end, and the old cynical fogeys turn out in greater numbers. Not always, 
but often.  
Three, Clinton has really been staying put, as you said, not really standing 
*for* anything, just saying "I have more experience and I'm tougher". Static 
message heard too many times.  Finally, i believe that *any* frontrunner would 
have seen a decline in the numbers because this went on too freakin' long. had 
Obama started out as the clear frontrunner and gotten all the focus, all the 
attention, all the attacks, I believe that after a campaign this long, people 
would have started picking at him, too. I know enough folks right now who 
aren't enamored of him. If he'd been in front all along this might have been a 
three-way day, or Edwards might have pulled ahead simply by dint of seeming to 
be newer and fresher.

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From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I just had a look at some of the voter breakdowns, and it seems that Obama won 
through youth more than gender. He's energized the kids out there. Hillary 
standing pat hurt her in the voters' eyes, IMO.

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or a Black man. the only thing i'm sure of is you won't see them on the same 
ticket! no way America'd elect a woman and a Brother in the same year!

So they go with the man because they really dobn't want to see a woma?

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