It's more August where the bad movies go. Toward the mid- to end of September, 
they start trotting out the Halloween themed films and some of the fall stuff 
that's supposed to be a notch above the summer fare. 
Ain't it a crazy system? 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Arterberry" <brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com> 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 5:06:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Megan Fox's Scary Box Office Problem 







Isn't September when studios "dump" movies into the multiplex that are 
considered crap?After the summer season and before the Xmas/Oscar rush. 



--- On Tue, 10/6/09, Tracey de Morsella <tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> 
wrote: 



From: Tracey de Morsella <tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Megan Fox's Scary Box Office Problem 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 3:55 AM 




To more: Leslie Caron ( she had big lips before they ware considered 
acceptable) and Natalie Wood. Both considered sex kittens in their day 

-----Original Message----- 
From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com ] On 
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella 
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:39 PM 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Megan Fox's Scary Box Office Problem 

What about Ann Margaret, Ava Gardner, Marilyn Monroe, Angelina Jolie ( 
before the Anorexia), J-Lo, the blond from Grey's Anatomy, Katherine Heigl, 
Sophia Loren, Scarlett Johansson, Natalie Portman, Jessica Biel 

All of them have been in hits I believe and are considered sexy 

Are you saying women reject sexy women. I think we seek to be them. I do 
not think the jealousy factor is at work here. I used to love movies with 
Hot Kick Ass Broads because I wanted to be one. I was taking notes, I was 
buying bustiers, leathers skirts and thigh high boots. (back in the day, 
those things were in okay, so stop laughing. 

I will probably check out Jennifer's Body on DVD, but my sense is it was 
poorly marketed. Fox has some image problems than include she is nothing 
but a body and then she star's in a movie called Jennifer's body in which 
the previews do not reveal that it is a comedy. Some decided to sell in the 
previews a pure slasher horror. If I had not read the reviews, I would have 
thought that she decided to play up that she is nothing but a body. 
Regarding young guys.. none of the previews showed her looking appealing, 
but instead as an exaggerated terrifying her that looked like she might 
bite off a guys important part. I knew someone who edited a forum/penthouse 
letters publication once, and stuff like was considered a no-no when it came 
to targeting mainstream males. She did not look sexy in the previews, and 
the previews is what people use to determine whether to go see it. If I 
were a young guy who thought she was hot, I would have popped in a 
transformers DVD instead, based on those previews 

-----Original Message----- 
From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com ] On 
Behalf Of Kelwyn 
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:32 PM 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Megan Fox's Scary Box Office Problem 

I defy you to name a Racquel Welch helmed hit (excluding her first, "One 
Million Years B.C."). Pam Grier was used and abused (raped and beaten up)in 
all her movies before she was allowed to kick triumphant butt. Liz Taylor 
is perhaps the exception that proves the rule but she, too, was slapped 
around in a number of her iconic roles and the films where she exuded pure 
female sexual power ("Cleopatra" ) were not box office hits. 

And, to be clear about this, the article stated females rejected Fox not for 
being "too sexy and beautiful" but because of her "pure, raw sexuality," 
which is something else altogether. Barbie is "too sexy and beautiful." 
Fox is no Barbie doll. 

There is an ongoing dynamic going on but you may ignore it if it suits you. 

~rave! 

--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@ ...> wrote: 
> 
> Did I fall asleep? Since when is the pure horror genre driven by female 
audiences? 
> And as for women not responding to Fox, is it that she's too sexy and 
beautiful for them, or (more likely) that she hasn't displayed a range and 
depth that makes them interested in anything she has to say on screen? I 
mean, there have been untold numbers of actresses over the years who've been 
classified as beautiful and sexy in the extreme, from Liz Taylor to Racquel 
Welch, from Pam Grier to Halle Berry. Such women have always found a female 
audience, depending on the roles they play. 
> I think this is more the script and Fox's one-note facial expressions. 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kelwyn" <ravena...@. ..> 
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 1:39:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Megan Fox's Scary Box Office Problem 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From Entertainment Weekly, October 9, 2009: 
> 
> "Jennifer's Body" deadly $6.8 million debut is attributed to Megan Fox's 
"sexy-beast" persona proving off-putting to women, without whom a horror 
movie don't stand a chance. "The genre is driven by the female audience, and 
I don't know that girls relate to her," says the executive. "Megan leads 
with pure, raw sexuality, and for girls it's a turnoff." 
> 
> Fox's drawing power will be tested again with next summer's western "Jonah 
Hex," aimed at her core: young guys. 
> 
> "If I were cutting the "Hex" trailer," says a studio strategist, "I'd make 
sure she was in as much of it as possible - in compromising positions." 
> 
> I imagine it would do even better if she could be raped during the movie. 
> 
> ~(no)rave! 
> 

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