rave, don't forget that Geena played a female President in the brief series "Commander in Chief".
"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:05:33 +0000 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Megan Fox's Scary Box Office Problem Thank you for the Gena Davis. Ms. Davis is strong and beautiful and her then husband, Renny Harlin, sought to showcase her as a kick-ass heroine in back-to-back movies: "Cutthroat Island" and "The Long Kiss Goodnight"). "The Long Kiss Goodnight" is a great movie but both it and "Cutthroat" were box office bombs. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" <tdli...@...> wrote: > > You misread my statement. While I do not discount those stats, that was not > what I was talking about. Women see famous beautiful women as people they > strive to look like and often they seek to act like the characters they play. > > > > > For example, when I was younger, I saw Gena Davis with Samuel Jackson in > “the long kiss goodnight� She was an assassin who had amnesia and became > a wife, mother and school teacher. She hit her head and became a > mother/assassin protecting her own. > > > > I thought she was soooooooo coooool!!!!!!!!! But I’m not specifically > attracted to Gena Davis. > > > > Another example of a kick ass broad character I just Love is the Bride in > Kill Bill, but again, its not specifically about Uma Thurman’s sexual > appeal, I do not think she is aging that well or that do a bad hair and > make-up job on her, but I would love to have that crazy eight outfit she wore > when she took down the all those guys with swords. > > > > I see a trend, I think I love kiss Ass Broad Assasin’s/ turned mother > characters. > > > > Anyway, I’m not discounting the sexual interest theory you raised, I just > not referring specifically to it. That being said, I’m sure there are > tons of women attracted to Megan Fox, but I seriously doubt they would have > been drawn to her in those promos that made her ugly. They needed to let > the audience in on the satire > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Mr. Worf > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:33 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Megan Fox's Scary Box Office Problem > > > > > > This is starting to sound like a post on the Kinsey surveys. :) About 45% of > women say that they are attracted to other women but only about 25% act on > it. I would suspect that it is the same for men too. > > I have several female friends that love horror movies. I lost interest in > them a long time ago. > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@...> wrote: > > > > Tracey, I agree with you. Many of the women I know have expressed serious > attractions toward women they consider to be the epitome of beauty. > > As for your wordrobe, no one's laughing. I'll wager that several of the gents > here are hoping for posted images. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody > hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > _____ > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: tdli...@... > Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:38:38 -0700 > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Megan Fox's Scary Box Office Problem > > > > What about Ann Margaret, Ava Gardner, Marilyn Monroe, Angelina Jolie ( > before the Anorexia), J-Lo, the blond from Grey's Anatomy, Katherine Heigl, > Sophia Loren, Scarlett Johansson, Natalie Portman, Jessica Biel > > All of them have been in hits I believe and are considered sexy > > Are you saying women reject sexy women. I think we seek to be them. I do > not think the jealousy factor is at work here. I used to love movies with > Hot Kick Ass Broads because I wanted to be one. I was taking notes, I was > buying bustiers, leathers skirts and thigh high boots. (back in the day, > those things were in okay, so stop laughing. > > I will probably check out Jennifer's Body on DVD, but my sense is it was > poorly marketed. Fox has some image problems than include she is nothing > but a body and then she star's in a movie called Jennifer's body in which > the previews do not reveal that it is a comedy. Some decided to sell in the > previews a pure slasher horror. If I had not read the reviews, I would have > thought that she decided to play up that she is nothing but a body. > Regarding young guys.. none of the previews showed her looking appealing, > but instead as an exaggerated terrifying her that looked like she might > bite off a guys important part. I knew someone who edited a forum/penthouse > letters publication once, and stuff like was considered a no-no when it came > to targeting mainstream males. She did not look sexy in the previews, and > the previews is what people use to determine whether to go see it. If I > were a young guy who thought she was hot, I would have popped in a > transformers DVD instead, based on those previews > > -----Original Message----- > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Kelwyn > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:32 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Megan Fox's Scary Box Office Problem > > I defy you to name a Racquel Welch helmed hit (excluding her first, "One > Million Years B.C."). Pam Grier was used and abused (raped and beaten up)in > all her movies before she was allowed to kick triumphant butt. Liz Taylor > is perhaps the exception that proves the rule but she, too, was slapped > around in a number of her iconic roles and the films where she exuded pure > female sexual power ("Cleopatra") were not box office hits. > > And, to be clear about this, the article stated females rejected Fox not for > being "too sexy and beautiful" but because of her "pure, raw sexuality," > which is something else altogether. Barbie is "too sexy and beautiful." > Fox is no Barbie doll. > > There is an ongoing dynamic going on but you may ignore it if it suits you. > > ~rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > Did I fall asleep? Since when is the pure horror genre driven by female > audiences? > > And as for women not responding to Fox, is it that she's too sexy and > beautiful for them, or (more likely) that she hasn't displayed a range and > depth that makes them interested in anything she has to say on screen? I > mean, there have been untold numbers of actresses over the years who've been > classified as beautiful and sexy in the extreme, from Liz Taylor to Racquel > Welch, from Pam Grier to Halle Berry. Such women have always found a female > audience, depending on the roles they play. > > I think this is more the script and Fox's one-note facial expressions. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kelwyn" <ravenadal@> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 1:39:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Megan Fox's Scary Box Office Problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Entertainment Weekly, October 9, 2009: > > > > "Jennifer's Body" deadly $6.8 million debut is attributed to Megan Fox's > "sexy-beast" persona proving off-putting to women, without whom a horror > movie don't stand a chance. "The genre is driven by the female audience, and > I don't know that girls relate to her," says the executive. "Megan leads > with pure, raw sexuality, and for girls it's a turnoff." > > > > Fox's drawing power will be tested again with next summer's western "Jonah > Hex," aimed at her core: young guys. > > > > "If I were cutting the "Hex" trailer," says a studio strategist, "I'd make > sure she was in as much of it as possible - in compromising positions." > > > > I imagine it would do even better if she could be raped during the movie. > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa > hoo! Groups Links > > > > > > _____ > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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