RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
Don't forget irony. Disko B has released stuff by such people as DJ Vice (Jay Denham) and I believe DJ Bone - (but I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong). Is this too many posts for one day? >-Original Message- >From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:46 PM >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? > > >wold the guy fit in better over at the Disko B stable??? >it is still DJ Hell's label if i remember right. I would assume that these >images are put there for the artistice shock value if there is any such >thing as that. Alot of punk bands do similar things. maybe Techno is just >the Electronic version of punk... > >> -Original Message- >> From:Gwendal Cobert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:27 AM >> To: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? >> >> Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the >> imagery, but it is just "too much" not to be second-degree... as far as I >> know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans and >> imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such ideas >> fit in the Gigolos stable ? >> Gwendal >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM >> > To: 313@hyperreal.org >> > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? >> > >> > >> > Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi >> > symbols on >> > them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which >> > appaered on the >> > Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him >> > why he named >> > one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to >> > sterilize the >> > population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly >> > disabled had to be >> > sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that >> > time on i always >> > had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track. >> > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller / >> > > Müller is quite >> > > a common name in Germany, isn't it ? >> > > Gwendal >> > > >> > > > -Original Message- >> > > > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM >> > > > To: '313@hyperreal.org' >> > > > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real >> > > > name, well i >> > > > hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members >> > > > i will burn my >> > > > copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head >> > > > Gestapo, the >> > > > secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is >> > > > reposible for one of >> > > > the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the >> > > > persons (together >> > > > with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key >> > > > components in the >> > > > deportation and then extermination of the Jews. >> > > > >> > > > Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he >> > > > disappeared and was >> > > > never brought to justice! >> > > > >> > > > To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the >> > > > Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why >> > > > to use Mueller >> > > > as an alias... >> > > > >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> > > > > One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in >> > > > > Jan-Feb Jockey Slut >> > > > > Magazine, UK). >> > > > > Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a >> > > > > feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of >> > > > > this? The name was >> > > > > Heinrich Muel
RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, FC3 Richards wrote: > would the guy fit in better over at the Disko B stable??? You mean alongside Artist Unknown? Can't get over how their first album has grown on me, & I hear they're working on new stuff/remixes. Keep hearing echoes of Elecktroids & even The Other People Place on certain tracks--maybe it's just the equipment, but who knows? Isn't there a German label run by a guy called Muller, that releases tracks by him, DJ Rok, Beroshima and others? I remember hearing a wicked Claude Young remix of something a while back on it... Anyone heard the Alter Ego remix of the recent Human League single? Sure looking forward to the new Vladislav Delay album Naima, & Soul Center*: III, out soon. Wes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
isnt Mueller a brand of noodles??? they come in the box that is mainly white and the top and bottom are blue. yeah, that is what my mom used to make spaghetti with when i was a kid. Maybe Drexcya got his noodles from the same place my mom does...??? taking nothing seriously as usual jeff (noodle boy) > -Original Message- > From: Jongsma, K.J. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:47 AM > To: '313@hyperreal.org' > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? > > I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real name, well i > hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members i will burn > my > copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head Gestapo, the > secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is reposible for one > of > the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the persons > (together > with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key components in the > deportation and then extermination of the Jews. > > Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he disappeared and was > never brought to justice! > > To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the > Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why to use Mueller > as an alias... > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in > > Jan-Feb Jockey Slut > > Magazine, UK). > > Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a > > feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of > > this? The name was > > Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the > > writer's part? Now > > that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, > > why the first > > attempt to post this was barred from the list This time > > I don't mention > > the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already > > out there too. > > Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated. > > -- > DISCLAIMER > > De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele > aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of > ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). > > Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op > de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen > garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus > vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail > berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen > te controleren. > -- > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
wold the guy fit in better over at the Disko B stable??? it is still DJ Hell's label if i remember right. I would assume that these images are put there for the artistice shock value if there is any such thing as that. Alot of punk bands do similar things. maybe Techno is just the Electronic version of punk... > -Original Message- > From: Gwendal Cobert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:27 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? > > Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the > imagery, but it is just "too much" not to be second-degree... as far as I > know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans and > imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such ideas > fit in the Gigolos stable ? > Gwendal > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? > > > > > > Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi > > symbols on > > them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which > > appaered on the > > Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him > > why he named > > one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to > > sterilize the > > population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly > > disabled had to be > > sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that > > time on i always > > had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller / > > > Müller is quite > > > a common name in Germany, isn't it ? > > > Gwendal > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM > > > > To: '313@hyperreal.org' > > > > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? > > > > > > > > > > > > I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real > > > > name, well i > > > > hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members > > > > i will burn my > > > > copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head > > > > Gestapo, the > > > > secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is > > > > reposible for one of > > > > the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the > > > > persons (together > > > > with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key > > > > components in the > > > > deportation and then extermination of the Jews. > > > > > > > > Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he > > > > disappeared and was > > > > never brought to justice! > > > > > > > > To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the > > > > Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why > > > > to use Mueller > > > > as an alias... > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in > > > > > Jan-Feb Jockey Slut > > > > > Magazine, UK). > > > > > Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a > > > > > feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of > > > > > this? The name was > > > > > Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the > > > > > writer's part? Now > > > > > that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, > > > > > why the first > > > > > attempt to post this was barred from the list This time > > > > > I don't mention > > > > > the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already > > > > > out there too. > > > > > Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > DISCLAIMER > > > > > > > > De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele > > > > aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtm
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For more information on Heinrich Mueller: http://www.nara.gov/iwg/declass/mueller.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FW: What's in a name?
Mueller is a very v common german name today; i never met anyone being too embarrased about being called mueller - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FW: What's in a name?
Maybe... maybe it's all just about making people stop and think harder for a moment. Think like for example Cybotron's "Cosmic car"... No shiny car = No beatiful girl. If you understand what I mean. Karl www.capsite.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FW: What's in a name?
On Monday, February 4, 2002, at 04:27 AM, Gwendal Cobert wrote: I don't really see how could a guy with such ideas fit in the Gigolos stable ? Gwendal you must not have the chris korda and the church of euthanasia release then... ;p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
OK, first off, Muller was head of the Gestapo. For anyone in doubt, a quick web-search will tell you that. And as far as there being no place for that sort of sentiment at Gigolos, it isn't of course, the first time nazi imagery has been used to portray a particular image in dance music (New Order / Joy Division being the most obvious example). Quite frankly, while it's a little tasteless, I can't actually see anything wrong with them using this name to throw a spanner in the works and it's nothing that hasn't been done before (plase no flames... I already know the arguments against this sort of thing. I'm not a bigot. I just think it has a well established artistic precedence). Then again, who knows? why release the name now? Is it perhaps to build up a bit of record-selling controversy (very Siouxsie...) in time for their album release? _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> maybe im wrong, and it is defenitlly offtopic, but the head > of gestapo was > Heinrich Himmler Wasn't Himmler head of the SS? i am kinda sure Mueler was head of the Gestapo. Yeah, yeah i know this is off-topic... > and Adolf Eichman was transportation menager, not that he is > not gulity for > crimes, afterall, he hanged for that, master plan was > Hitler`s work and > about all that nazi sh**, you will always find sombody enough > stupid who > will claim that something from that time was right -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FW: What's in a name?
I always interpreted the Dopplereffekt ethos as a sort of "piss-take" on Fascist ideology and sarcastic social commentary; much in the same vein as Slovenian "Industrial" group Laibach, who explored similar themes. Nonetheless, it's some pretty out-there stuff. But I think you have to realize it's coming from a very wierd Black dude from Detroit. I would be kind of worried if it was like some straight up German guys doing that stuff. -J on 2/4/02 4:13 AM, Jongsma, K.J. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi symbols on > them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which appaered on the > Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him why he named > one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to sterilize the > population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly disabled had to be > sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that time on i always > had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller / >> Müller is quite >> a common name in Germany, isn't it ? >> Gwendal >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM >>> To: '313@hyperreal.org' >>> Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? >>> >>> >>> I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real >>> name, well i >>> hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members >>> i will burn my >>> copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head >>> Gestapo, the >>> secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is >>> reposible for one of >>> the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the >>> persons (together >>> with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key >>> components in the >>> deportation and then extermination of the Jews. >>> >>> Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he >>> disappeared and was >>> never brought to justice! >>> >>> To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the >>> Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why >>> to use Mueller >>> as an alias... >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>> One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in >>>> Jan-Feb Jockey Slut >>>> Magazine, UK). >>>> Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a >>>> feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of >>>> this? The name was >>>> Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the >>>> writer's part? Now >>>> that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, >>>> why the first >>>> attempt to post this was barred from the list This time >>>> I don't mention >>>> the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already >>>> out there too. >>>> Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated. >>> >>> -- >>> DISCLAIMER >>> >>> De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele >>> aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of >>> ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). >>> >>> Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op >>> de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen >>> garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus >>> vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail >>> berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen >>> te controleren. >>> -- >>> >>> >> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > -- > DISCLAIMER > > De gemeente Almelo aa
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> I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real name, well i > hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members i will burn my > copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head Gestapo, maybe im wrong, and it is defenitlly offtopic, but the head of gestapo was Heinrich Himmler and Adolf Eichman was transportation menager, not that he is not gulity for crimes, afterall, he hanged for that, master plan was Hitler`s work and about all that nazi sh**, you will always find sombody enough stupid who will claim that something from that time was right b. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the imagery, but it is just "too much" not to be second-degree... as far as I know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans and imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such ideas fit in the Gigolos stable ? Gwendal > -Original Message- > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? > > > Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi > symbols on > them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which > appaered on the > Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him > why he named > one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to > sterilize the > population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly > disabled had to be > sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that > time on i always > had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller / > > Müller is quite > > a common name in Germany, isn't it ? > > Gwendal > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM > > > To: '313@hyperreal.org' > > > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? > > > > > > > > > I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real > > > name, well i > > > hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members > > > i will burn my > > > copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head > > > Gestapo, the > > > secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is > > > reposible for one of > > > the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the > > > persons (together > > > with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key > > > components in the > > > deportation and then extermination of the Jews. > > > > > > Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he > > > disappeared and was > > > never brought to justice! > > > > > > To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the > > > Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why > > > to use Mueller > > > as an alias... > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in > > > > Jan-Feb Jockey Slut > > > > Magazine, UK). > > > > Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a > > > > feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of > > > > this? The name was > > > > Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the > > > > writer's part? Now > > > > that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, > > > > why the first > > > > attempt to post this was barred from the list This time > > > > I don't mention > > > > the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already > > > > out there too. > > > > Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated. > > > > > > -- > > > DISCLAIMER > > > > > > De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele > > > aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of > > > ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). > > > > > > Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op > > > de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen > > > garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus > > > vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail > > > berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen > > > te controleren. > > > -- > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [
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Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi symbols on them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which appaered on the Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him why he named one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to sterilize the population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly disabled had to be sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that time on i always had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller / > Müller is quite > a common name in Germany, isn't it ? > Gwendal > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM > > To: '313@hyperreal.org' > > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? > > > > > > I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real > > name, well i > > hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members > > i will burn my > > copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head > > Gestapo, the > > secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is > > reposible for one of > > the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the > > persons (together > > with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key > > components in the > > deportation and then extermination of the Jews. > > > > Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he > > disappeared and was > > never brought to justice! > > > > To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the > > Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why > > to use Mueller > > as an alias... > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in > > > Jan-Feb Jockey Slut > > > Magazine, UK). > > > Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a > > > feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of > > > this? The name was > > > Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the > > > writer's part? Now > > > that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, > > > why the first > > > attempt to post this was barred from the list This time > > > I don't mention > > > the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already > > > out there too. > > > Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated. > > > > -- > > DISCLAIMER > > > > De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele > > aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of > > ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). > > > > Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op > > de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen > > garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus > > vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail > > berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen > > te controleren. > > -- > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller / Müller is quite a common name in Germany, isn't it ? Gwendal > -Original Message- > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM > To: '313@hyperreal.org' > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? > > > I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real > name, well i > hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members > i will burn my > copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head > Gestapo, the > secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is > reposible for one of > the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the > persons (together > with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key > components in the > deportation and then extermination of the Jews. > > Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he > disappeared and was > never brought to justice! > > To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the > Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why > to use Mueller > as an alias... > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in > > Jan-Feb Jockey Slut > > Magazine, UK). > > Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a > > feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of > > this? The name was > > Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the > > writer's part? Now > > that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, > > why the first > > attempt to post this was barred from the list This time > > I don't mention > > the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already > > out there too. > > Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated. > > -- > DISCLAIMER > > De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele > aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of > ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). > > Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op > de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen > garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus > vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail > berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen > te controleren. > -- > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
It's a strange thing to do, non? It could be a piece of (very) black humour; it could be a clue ... It could be a way of saying that this name needs to be repeated every ten years or so been anywhere in Germany lately? (Especially Bavaria). Unsettling is the word. >-Original Message- >From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:47 AM >To: '313@hyperreal.org' >Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? > > >I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real name, well i >hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members i will burn my >copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head Gestapo, the >secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is reposible >for one of >the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the persons >(together >with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key components in the >deportation and then extermination of the Jews. > >Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he disappeared and was >never brought to justice! > >To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the >Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why to use Mueller >as an alias... > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in >> Jan-Feb Jockey Slut >> Magazine, UK). >> Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a >> feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of >> this? The name was >> Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the >> writer's part? Now >> that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, >> why the first >> attempt to post this was barred from the list This time >> I don't mention >> the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already >> out there too. >> Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated. > >-- >DISCLAIMER > >De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele >aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of >ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). > >Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op >de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen >garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus >vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail >berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen >te controleren. >-- > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real name, well i hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members i will burn my copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head Gestapo, the secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is reposible for one of the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the persons (together with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key components in the deportation and then extermination of the Jews. Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he disappeared and was never brought to justice! To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why to use Mueller as an alias... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in > Jan-Feb Jockey Slut > Magazine, UK). > Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a > feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of > this? The name was > Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the > writer's part? Now > that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, > why the first > attempt to post this was barred from the list This time > I don't mention > the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already > out there too. > Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated. -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
