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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns Sleeping pattern?Pfft, please, nocturnal here. I catnap for a few hours then am up and on the go, and have this insanely annoying (for everyone else that is) knack of waking up at 3am and hammering away on a keybord on my laptop. xD Good job I got a thick door between me and everybody else, I need it at timesthat, and I ditched my mechaniccal keyboard, I whip that out for Skype calls when people walk off, I hammer on that thing and laugh at the reactionsbut sleeping patterns. Nope, Nocturnal here pretty much, or something close to it...Nocturnal and East Coast time makes for aninteresting sleeping pattern URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=307019#p307019 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns cae_jones wrote:well, I have no idea how long this Goldylocks interval... honeymoon period? Denouement? is going to last, so get back to me in a month or two.The answer is approximately two months. A new high score! Normally it's a miracle if I can fix anything for more than a week out of a year.But yeah, temporary fix is temporary. And I have no intention of sliding back into the doom pit. So... the next month better be at least as exciting as the previous sentence makes it sound like it should be, blast it... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=307015#p307015 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns Paddy, that's pretty much me exactly, including the part where I keep getting accused of deliberately staying up all night.Melatonin is somewhat helpful, but the problem is that my cycle is shorter than normal, not longer, so I need more help staying awake than going to sleep. As soon as people acknowledge that non24 can go the opposite direction and make it legal to prescribe modafinil for non24, I'll let everyone know.But, in the US, doing anything medical for non24 is a horrible hassle. The only medication approved for non24 is really expensive (as low-incidence conditions tend to get), medicaid doesn't like paying for it, a sleep study is required and sleep studies exist to sell CPAPs, and to get to that point you have to have a doctor who hears a blind person complaining about sleep problems and thinks "Oh, yeah! I heard about Hetlioz! Think we should try that?", rather than "probably some dumb kid staying up all night on snapchat&quo t;.But I just found out that, apparently, Modafinil is approved for OSA (obstructive sleep apnea), which you more or less are guaranteed to get diagnosed with if you do a sleep study. Last I had heard, Modafinil was only approved for narcolepsy and airline pilots. (Also, they added workshift sleep disorder to the conditions for which Modafinil can be prescribed.) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=307013#p307013 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns Hey folks,I am struggling with screwed up sleeping patterns eversince Winter 2011, don't ask me how it came; hell, I don't know! I think it began when I went to bed as usual, but instead of sleeping between 6-8 hours, I woke up early in the morning between 2 and 3AM, unable to catch any more sleep. As consequens, I became terribly tired during the day and I couldn't keep myself awake anymore.In the evening, I am usually pretty awake again, but if I went to sleep anyway, I must admit that I didn't have any problems falling asleep real soon. Still, after 3 or 4 hours, I have the same troubles I already mentioned above and, therefore, on and on goes the cycle.The first two years I was fighting with it, nobody believed me that I had a sleeping problem. Instead, they thought I just stay awake too long in the evening and intentionally don't get enough sleep, which was, of course, not the case. The tiredness I experience is a different one than a normal tiredness. It's like a very harsh fatique you couldn't really get rid of. You desperately try to keep yourself awake, but at a certain point, you are defeated by the exhaustion. It feels like an anasthesia: From one moment to the other, you are back awake and you don't have any idea what went on in between. Normally, I only drift away for 5 up to 15 minutes, but it also happened once in a lesson that I fell asleep, and woke up three quarters of an hour later. Holy hell, you can't imagine how happy I was that nobody realised and nobody asked me anything during my nap!I am not proud of it, and I found out that I can resist a little longer during the day when I go to sleep later in the night (at 2 or 3AM, for example). Come on, I only sleep up to four hours anyway and I have to get up at 7, so I will at least be awake on time and don't have to struggle with getting back to sleep. Screw it, it doesn't work anyway! And if it works, it is usually one hour before I have to get up and if the alarm goes, I have extreme trouble getting out of bed.My teachers and classmates didn't take me serious, and so didn't my parents, which was quite depressing. The only one who believed me the whole time was my psychologist whom I consulted during that time. She also told me about this Melantonin, that is been automatically produced by our body when our eyes don't catch sun light or so. Since some of us are not able to catch any light, it is more likely that the production of melantonin is iregular and screwed up, causing this sleeping issue. In this case, the production of Melantonin can be steared by taking certain pills.But that's just one explanation... As we already heard above from other folks here, the issue is similar, but based on other criteria. At least, after three years struggling with my sleeping issue, everybody finally started to take me serious because they heard of issues similar to non-24. Although this doesn't really get me further, it is a good feeling that all the people finally stand behind me and understand my trouble I have.Back in 2015, there was a time where I had a few hearing losses. I took Betavistin to cure it, which worked just the way I wanted it to, luckily. But, as always, there was a stupid side-effect involved: It speeded up my blood pressure very quickly, and made me tired even quicker. Friends and classmates told me that I was very quiet during that time, and it was difficult having conversations with me, because I either reacted slower or It took multiple attempts to make me react on something.I also had to take Prednisone once, due to an infection I had, so I know the side-effects as well (this unhealthy look, for instance). Plus, whereas I have had no appetite during the infection, I had to make sure that I always had something to eat with me or nearby, otherwise I would have turned into a zombie, getting angry pretty quickly. I could also more likely motivate myself to do things, and I didn't fall asleep at school, which surprised my teachers for a little while.When I was finally done with taking prednisone, the unhealthy look went, and so came my sleeping problems again after a while.In short: it's a hell of a circle we are all in! A couple of months ago, I read in a blind-related newspaper about some faculties in Germany that began specialising in things like non-24, and they have extra blind-dedicated methods. I consulted the faculty in Münster and argued with my parents until my mother finally insisted. So we went there last week, and they gave me an actimeter, which looks like a watch that you can wear around your wrist. I have to wear it for two weeks, so that they can work with the results to diagnose what is wrong with me, eventually medicating it properly.At the moment, my sleeping pattern is pretty well. I get tired in the evening, sleep 6-8 hours and stay awake the whole day. But that's j
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns I haven't had that experience of having trouble sleeping, however, I can relate to naps messing up my sleep. Sometimes it may be just a planned two hours that go in to a full 8 hour sleep. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=301261#p301261 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns hi everyone. Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but personally I can get a messed up sleeping schedule even if I only take a very short nap during the day. If I do this, then I might get very big problems sleeping at night, which will make me even more tired the next day. It's like an evil circle. I also have trouble falling asleep if I am somewhere that i have never been before, at least for the first night or so. Has anyone else experienced this? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=301220#p301220 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns The solution to sleeping pattern issues is a two part solution.I - to sleep early if you can.II - to go outside and sit with friends at a time that you can, and preferably when the erge to sleep comes, because that should distract you from getting tired.Then return to home and sleep if you need to or if you see being awake can mess up your pattern. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=300485#p300485 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns usually I'm pritty well when it comes to sleep, but if i go visit my sister's I'll stay up till 2 or 3 and wake up at like 7 am, and then after that my sleeping pattern is messed up. as of right now, I can stay up all day, and even if i'm busy, and ware myself out i can go to sleep at like 10 PM, but still wake up at like 1 AM. it's a pain. lol URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=299211#p299211 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns Apparently sleeping on the job is acceptable in some nations, as it is viewed as exhaustion from working hard, so the power nap trend might be coming from that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297872#p297872 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns It is actually true about light perception however. have some vision including light perception, while my lady does not.While Both my wife and I have slightly crazy sleep patterns, hers is definitely more extreme and she's the one who takes ambian regularly. Ironically though, I just heard on the news yesterday of companies encouraging employees to take power naps in the middle of the day. I've actually done that myself when I've been on an intensive performing schedule, and it works, though I think if I did it every day I'd pretty zombific, indeed after a week of performing classes I usually take a week to recover . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297854#p297854 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns Obviously I don't have blind non-24, but I think it's really fascinating how much just being able to see light can do to change your life, you know. I have friends with lebers and none of them have these issues because they can see the sun. And well, that's about it really lol.Who knows though, maybe as the internet becomes more and more prevalent in our lives, people won't care so much about being on a 24 hour schedule? That would be interesting. Most people don't think about the non-24 problems associated with total blindness I notice.I have sleeping issues because my neighbors love yelling at 1 in the morning... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297827#p297827 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns My boyfriend has prosthetic eyes and suffers from sleep-wake cycles. He's been using this Sleep Shepherd Blue device for the past few nights. It's quite on the pricy side, and he hasn't really determined if it's working yet. He says it gets him to sleep easier, but he still has trouble staying asleep once he's there. He tried Hetlioz for a while,-- the medicine used to treat non-24. However, it made him incredibly sick to his stomach so much that he couldn't keep taking it. Herbal remedies stop working after a while, and his body eventually gets too used to sleep meds so that they stop working. I can see sunlight, and I don't have these same issues-- though I do have trouble staying awake once I get home from work in the evenings. I think that's just laziness though. Even living with a non-24 partner and knowing about it as I do, I have trouble accepting its limitations and schedules. I'm a super morning person working a 9 to 5 job, so it's sometimes hard for me not to be annoyed when he's sleeping until 11 or 12 throughout the day. Our society is so geared towards the daytime schedule. It's when we work, shop, get deliveries, make phone calls, and generally interact with the rest of the world. I guess one silver lining is that careers today are shifting more towards work-from-home and telework situations. At least that allows you to have some control over your schedule. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297819#p297819 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns I've gotten used to melatonin, which means I can't sleep using it, which makes sense, as melatonin is a natural substance your body generally produces enough of on its own without external influence and is not meant to be used as a sleeping pill anyway. for me, there simply is no better time to sleep than during the day and be awake at night and, even into the late morning hours to some degree. Once the sun is fully overhead, it's time to head to bed. The problem with this, as anyone who knows me will more than likely be aware is, I have kids! Responsibilities! In the past 2 years I've seen more doctors and hospital visits than in the first 26 years of my life! That means staying awake during the day, which is bad! Bad, I say!I may be tired if you wake me up suddenly at 6 in the evening for whatever reason, but once I'm fully awake, I'll be fine until late tomorrow. Wake me up suddenly or otherwise at six in the morning, and I'll be dead tired within a couple of hours! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297741#p297741 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns @Raygrote, to hear about the problem, however it does sound a familiar one.I was on one particular medication at one point which basically succeeded in turning me into a zombie. Where previously I'd been sleeping erratically, then I went to a point of getting two hours of fairly intensive, brain heavy dream wracked sleep at about, and spending the other 22 hours in a sort of zombie haze, well not that zombie like since I doubt I would've been capable of understanding the necessity for brains, or finding the motivation to go and much them . Needless to say my doctor switched meds fairly quickly, but while the next one had an effect on sleep, I could at least get a good 6-8 hours, though whether sleep were related to mental state or not I don't know. @Cae, agreed on America and work insanityMy lady's his wife are bot h now working 7 days a week from 8-6. Yet, what is interesting now is the majority of jobs, for all the actual hours are longer, the real activity level required is much less. For example, in the past person working in a shop would need to do all their calculations and stock taking by hand, be adept at weighing and measuring, and in general be able to solve a lot of incoming problems, such as finding space for stock in a dynamic way. that! kind of job people would do for around 7 hours, but would have spent 7 hours actually being engaged. this is apposed to the production line style, form, filling, filing basic shelf stacking that makes up the majority of jobs now. it's actually really depressing that computers, instead of giving people more time to be creative by removing mental drudgery, have actually just been used to set up everything on a production line model which destroys people's over all creativity.Insert rant on the aliena tion of labour. All of this definitely isn't! good for people's schedules, since there is a major difference between actual satisfying work that leaves a person feeling as if they've done something worth doing, and just being a miner cog in the prophet machine on a wages in, output out sort of model. In terms of free time, I tend to think that it is! possible to work from home on projects you choose, but you have to be fairly rigorous about it, eg, being willing to literally sit down and not do something else for an hour or being willing to agree a target for yourself.being married also definitely helps. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297735#p297735 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns Often what can force my sleeping patterns to get back to normal is either school (at the cost of a day of sleepiness) or playing lots of games, or, more rarely, it seems that after a while it just corrects itself. Also days/nights where I can't sleep can help, of course they're most helpful when they're days. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297543#p297543 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns Raycrote, your medication side-effect sounds like a textbook case of mania (the polar opposite of depression). Including it being exhausting.Also yes, sleep cycles are a battle.I find I absolutely must have some sort of way to force myself to be up at the right times. If I can't sleep when the right times come around, melatonin is always an option. (The problem with melatonin is that it takes a while to have an effect, and I don't know if I'm going to have trouble sleeping until I'm having trouble sleeping... so using it habitually would probably be better, but I don't wanna.)What helps? Having a full day, I guess. If you have friends and you have the same school/work hours and you hang out after / before, your cycles will probably drift toward each other Yeah, that's it. Just external factors. Internal motivation can help, but you have to be starting from a strong enough place to have any internal motivation of consequen ce. Not gonna lie, all these training center and college shenanigans were in part a front in the war on sleep (itself a front of the War on Akrasius, Demon Lord of Sloth and Despair), though not exclusively, because that would be silly. ... and it worked, though not without effort and luck, and now that I've used that up... well, I have no idea how long this Goldylocks interval... honeymoon period? Denouement? is going to last, so get back to me in a month or two.(I really didn't mean to make this post go back to that subject but no seriously it helped a ton with this particular problem. I think my internal clock is still screwy, and the symptoms are easy to recognize once you know what to look for, but, yeah. There's only so much sliding you can do with an 8-to-5 commitment that you have to walk half a mile to and from. Which leads neatly into my next topic...)How much should we push "society" for this? Some, at least. Current research indicates that teenagers emphatically should not start school at 8AM, and no one but the super experimental montesauri-esque private schools have changed anything in response. In the US, workplace culture has gone nanners, and people all over are being pushed to work ridiculous hours and show ridiculous amounts of enthusiasm after spending ridiculous amounts of time and effort to get ridiculous overqualifications from ridiculously pompous universities. In short, work in the US is ridiculous. (Most people who will respond to this with some complaint about being whiny entitled good-for-nothing layabouts tend to be old enough that, when they started working, work was not, in fact, so ridiculous, and neither was college. This does not mean there aren't whiny entitled good-for-nothing layabouts who complain when you try to get them to do paperwork instead of playing on Facebook. The two are not mutually exclusive, you see.)It's something of an awful catch 22, or at least , in the case where I link sleep to productivity (research and numerous anecdotes do so, so might as well test it, ne?). To get out of the Slothpit, one needs a full schedule... but if one tried filling the holes in said schedule with the ultimate target work already, then the only thing to do is fill it with something else. So there's a time scarcity either way--one at the hands of sleep deprivation, the other due to schedule conflicts.And yet, less is definitely more, where free time is concerned. Don't misunderstand me, Kakarot. Free Time is still essential. But whole weeks of free time are terrifying. (If training helped, then the 3 big breaks did very much the opposite. That I have not crashed yet since graduating is a welcome miracle.)I should add that, for me at least, filling a vacant schedule with lots of sitting is a very inferior solution. Especially if it's the sort where there is no getting up and going elsewhere during the day. This is one r eason--perhaps the most important--that I want to go nowhere near an office job. I'd sooner be a housekeeper (Ahem, "environmental specialist"), since it at least involves getting up and moving around, and has a very clear way to measure progress. Alas, paperwork multiplies, these days, and spills into everything.This was supposed to be a quick reply, not a novella! -_- URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297533#p297533 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns You know.I am surprised that there isn't a chip for this.In theory anyway and I have only just thought of it, you'd just need a chip connected to a lot of atomic time servers and synced to a timezone set or linked through your device of choice or linked itself.Then get it to reset to whatever is needed.How it would reset is a question.And ofcause any chip can be hacked, even the supposedly secure ones.Maybe in another hundred years, we will just get and run the right app and implant device for our phone of choice for some rediculously low price. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297528#p297528 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns I do agree with what Dark said about sleep and emotions. What I've noticed, though, is that my body seems to have a more or less uniform response to how it wants to sleep and stay awake. For example, if I fall asleep at 9 and wake up at 1 feeling fully rested, I'll only feel rested for a few hours. Then around 6 or 7 I'll go back to sleep and finish the last 4 or 5 hours of the sleep I started earlier. So it eventually makes itself up. The problem, though, which I completely forgot about until reading Dark's post, is that sometimes I'll wind up splitting my 24-hour cycle into two distinct ones. For example, sleep for 4 hours, wake for 6, sleep for 4, wake for 10. That's a 24-hour cycle but it's exhausting, and the best way I've found to break it is to simply avoid those 4-hour naps. Which of course knocks everything out of whack and who knows where I'll eventually end up? Speaking of that, there's a little story about an extreme ve rsion of that which I will tell a little later.I'm also extremely sensitive to sunlight, especially in the summer. A few years ago I was helping a friend of mine with a presentation and we had lunch outside. The sun was shining on me and while I was only outside for 15 minutes, it was enough to tire me the rest of the day. When I got home at 4:30 I crashed. Hard. I woke up at 2:00 the next morning, and spent the next month fighting with that pattern. I'm not exactly sure why the sunlight hit me that hard, but I do have some medical problems (mainly crohn's disease) which I think creates some vitamin deficiencies which I have to be periodically tested for to ensure the supplements I take are adequately dosed. That all might play a factor in my sensitivity to sunlight. I don't like going outside much either for some reason, so that also probably plays a part in my sun intolerance. I've always had it, though, and I think it used to be worse before I star ted meds. Here's a story of a somewhat personal nature, but which I think you will enjoy. My previously mentioned Crohn's disease went spiraling a couple years ago, and I went to see my specialist. He expressed concern that something was going on, so we did a whole workup and other procedures, and he indeed said things were progressing. Thankfully, the worst of it was the symptoms caused by the progressing disease, and not some devastating turn of events the disease had set in motion. So, he was able to alter my medications and also streamline them so that I was only taking the essential things I needed for treating the disease in its current state.Unfortunately getting the new meds took time. The doctor told me that if I simply couldn't wait, if the pain was too much, I could let him know and he could prescribe Prednisone, a powerful anti-inflammatory, for symptomatic relief, but that the side effects may not be pleasant. At first I said I don't ne ed it, but soon I had lost much of my normally ravenous appetite. I felt lethargic and was not keen on getting up and doing anything. My mom, seeing this, encouraged me to get the Prednisone, and soon I was taking it. And boy did it change me!The most dramatic change caused by the Prednisone was my emotional state. While most people become depressed, I actually became high. I became overly enthusiastic about everything. I finished some projects, or did significant work on them, that I wouldn't have thought to do otherwise. While I didn't do anything ground-breaking, I certainly did a lot compared to what I normally do. I was told that I also looked very unhealthy, and that is another side effect of Prednisone, it can change appearance by making you feel or look bloated or have breakouts on your skin. I had all of that too.It also screwed up my sleeping patterns. My 24-hour schedule was dramatically reduced. I was lucky if I could stay awake for 8 hours. And t here was no such thing as even a 6-hour sleep. In fact after only 2 or 3 hours of rest, I was, almost, ready to tackle anything. Some days consisted of a very repetitive rectangular pattern. Sleep for 3, wake for 4 or 5. All day. It was exhausting, and often meant I couldn't pay attention in class. I would often doze off. Fortunately most of my professors didn't even mention it, probably because my life isn't theirs and they're leaving it up to me, but the few who did were understanding. I promised them that I would still get my work done, that they didn't have to worry about my well-being, and while they were worried, they believed me. And as it turns out, that's exactly how it happened.Because Prednisone is slow to wear off and requires you to ween yourself off of it, and my new meds have a process of their own to be weened onto, there was a point when I was taking both at once. It was a bit scary, but nothing consequential happened, other t
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns Too often, medication is believed to be the solution to everything, whether it's someone failing school or having trouble sleeping. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297473#p297473 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns hi,I think overuse of medications is a general problem. Here whenever anyone has a runny nose or sore throat they go ahead and take an antibiotic. Whereas, the antibiotic is often ineffective. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297447#p297447 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns @enes, I've feel like that's a bit of a societal problem. At least the way I see it, I think society doesn't accommodate people very much and too often resorts to drugs to get them to act normal, when all they might need to do is perhaps change their schedule around. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297446#p297446 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns my lady has actually been diagnosed with none 24, and takes a fairly extreme sleeping tablet because of it. This is okay when it works, but rather bad when it doesn't, and can have the consequence of making her fHairly dopy. Oddly enough, even though my light is okay and I can see sunlight etc my situation is rather Raygrote's. sometimes it's fine, especially when I'm doing weights and exercising, but often it isn't. One thing I have noticed, is that certain situations which are more tiring can set things out of whack. For example, if I'm at a crowded, unpleasant party, or the like, I tend to crash when I get back, even if in the middle of the day. Generally if I go to sleep, even for 15 minutes, that is pretty much that for at least the next six hours, sometimes as much as 18, though eventually I'll sleep again. Take last night, both Mrs. Dark and I crashed out at nine or so. Then however, I wake up at 20 past one, feeling fully rested. After finishing my steven king I decided it was best to say "just buger it" and get up, hence why I'm now awake at about twenty two, having already been mucking about online for a couple of hours. I will say, I tend to like working mornings, whether morning actually getting up at seven and starting work about eight thirty, as I used to at uni, or getting up at three and starting around four. I'll also say that mental state has a major affect on sleep, and there is a huge difference between a night up feeling dreadful, or indeed an evening up feeling dreadful after sleeping all day, and a night or evening awake doing something fun or just being awake because I'm deeply into what I'm doing and not wanting to stop . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297439#p297439 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns hi,I also heard that drugs can be taken for this. However, I personally would not take anything for this. Due to it not being extremely dangerous or life threatening. As a principle, I don't take medication for something unless it is serious or has the potential to become serious. The most serious thing I did with this sleep disorder was miss a bus stop and not open the door for my parents. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297403#p297403 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns Hi.Join the club is all I can say.In the summer especially when hot I can find it hard to sleep at night, but it can also happen in the winter.I can be on a role, get up between 5 and or 7, and that in itself is fine.Sometimes its at 3 or 4 and sometimes I can't sleep till 1.Being that I do morning gym sessions its not a big issue.The issue is when I can't get up at all.I have been known to sleep all day at times if I don't watch it.Sometimes I give myself a day usually a sunday or friday where I sleep till 9 or 10 am and thats usually enough for a while.As long as I am in bed by 9 or 10.30 something round that I am fine.If I go to some sort of party, especially at night I can be quiet and tired.Light for me plays a major part.My eyes are super sensitive, alergies and the like.Light can simple have them close and not be able to open.If its to noisy I sleep.I can sleep at the dr op of a hat during the day but never at night.My brother has the same issues as I do not being able to get to sleep and sleeping in to much, he is sighted so who knows.I have heard for us blind types its to do with light, stimulation and the like.The fact we depend on it, for those with light perception its not to bad but light does stimulate your bodyclock and without it you never change or something I don't understand it fully.If I am slightly out of joint, I can't just go back in, ie if I travel long distance, I havn't really done this but if I do on the occation I may be out of time for a couple days, thats normal enough.However if I stay somewhere for a couple weeks or even a month, I am right out of sequence.I sleep all day and stay up much of the night.I simply don't get tired for ages and ages and ages.I will eventually get back into a rythm but it means I have to stay up for 3 or 4 days tired sleeping little at nights.I have thougyht about trying tablets or something but all that will probably do is get me use to tablets and may not actually fix things.When I am on holliday I tend if I am able not to take my laptop with me.The laptop has a dead battery in it anyway, its at least 5 or so years old now, but its fine.I always find though if I have a computer I spend most of my time on it rather then smelling the roses.The only things I ever take on holliday are a phone, my recorder for obvious reasons and a flash drive with nvda and other things on it if I need to access someone's system while away.I have started doing this thing as of 4 years back when I said no to some things I did.In my first big holliday I took my computer to the place.We stayed in one location for a month.And while I went out a lot I spent about 90% of the time on the computer.I even stayed up all night in order to play on the computer.I ha ve since just not done this.Sure I get bored, but I listen more, record things a bit more, relax and actually enjoy things.Sadly this never happens at home.In the winter my patterns can vary a lot more than summer.If I tend to be awake at nights its not to bad in summer months especially when it gets rather hot.In winter though if I have issues they are more pronounced.I will also get quite depressed when it gets dark or rains for periods.Lately though any light can make me have a headake even if I use glasses and I really don't care for that as such.So yeah everyone has issues sleeping. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297374#p297374 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns Apparently there are two sleep disorders that share similar symptoms, but are often confused. Non 24, which is that thing you see in commercials, at least in the US anyway, and Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder, where you get restful, high quality sleep, but the only issue is when it happens. From what I've heard, the cause of Non 24 and disorders like it among blind people is that for normal people, light tells their brain to reset their circadian rhythms (body clocks) so that they are in alignment with the normal 24 hour day. However, because blind people lack this stimulation, their sleep cycle has an extra hour added on to it, and it drifts instead of resetting as it should. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297380#p297380 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns From what I've heard, this happens because blind people can't see sunlight so something isn't stimulated properly. But I don't really believe this theory. I can still see light and sunlight but that doesn't help. Also some sighted people have bad sleeping patterns too, it's actually a sleep disorder called non 24 and is precisely what we are talking about. I don't think they really know what's truly behind it or what causes it, and unfortunately, only some drugs have seemed to have moderate success (according to Wikipedia anyway). It's not something you can tame with careful personal management.I pretty much can identify with everything said here. I joke I've woken up or gone to bed at any conceivable time of day at least once or twice in my life. It gets bad. Try going to bed at 10 AM and waking up at 6 PM. That's the worst. You're totally off track. For me, I have intermittent cycles where I'll be in alignme nt, sometimes for months, but will either gradually drift out, or suddenly one night will stay up an extra 6 hours because I'm excited about something, and next thing you know I'm knocked out of alignment for months. Sometimes my body gets stuck on a certain 24-hour pattern for weeks. This is awesome if it gets stuck at reasonable times, but often it gets stuck at the stupid times like 10 AM and 6 PM I mentioned above. I get cranky when I don't get sleep when I want it, and get equally cranky when trying to fix it because the only thing that works is a combination of forcing and... having faith that it will sort. It does eventually.My favorite sleep schedule is something nice and early like going to bed at 8 PM and geting up at 4. Then I have a bit of a buffer to drift forward, because that's what I normally do. About a month ago my sleep schedule was precisely that, after a long shift of being nocturnal. Now it's drifting, it has been for the p ast two weeks, and now I'm going to bed at 2 AM and waking up at 10. If I get too excited about something one night, I might well ruin all sense of normality and give it the gentle nudge it needs for me to be pulling all nighters again.When I was little, my parents, as most will, insisted I have a tight bedtime regime. It didn't work that well. I often wasn't tired at bedtime and couldn't sleep for hours. I would fall asleep in school. People tell me dozing in class is such a bad thing and how they've come close to nodding off but never have because it's so bad. I've outright dozed, and even accidentally started snoring a few times. I know I'm not the only one but it embarrasses me. I've slept in class so many times I can't even pretend to estimate how many. It's well into the thousands. In high school I would suffer academically because of it. In college, when my sleeping patterns started becoming a real problem and were becoming less predictable, I wised up and recorded virtually all my lectures because I never knew when I'd be too tired to concentrate, or just in case I wanted to remember them. I became so reliant on recordings that I stopped taking notes because it gave me an excuse to see if I needed sleep or just to mentally zone out to deal with something else that was on my mind, plus not taking notes meant I wouldn't be multitasking. And it also gave me an excuse just to be lazy in class too... which I was probably better at than most of my classmates. Studying for an exam for me literally consisted of sitting down, 24 hours before the test, listening to the 8 to 10 lectures that took place between the last exam and this one, and writing notes in Notepad for cramming. All the while, I would obviously be freaking myself out, studying the notes like mad, figuring out what they might and might not ask on the test, etc. It was rough.I've come to accept my stupid sleep habb its as part of me, but I'd still like to find an effective way to fix them more or less permanently so they're more like those of most of the people I know. For a while I wasn't prepared to deal with them. I'm still not, but part of preparation is knowing it exists, which I do now. And so I guess it's here to stay. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297375#p297375 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns hi,Same here. The sleep that eventually and inevitably comes in the daytime is irresistable. It is like getting an anesthetic or something. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297361#p297361 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns Hi, To be honest, my problems with sleeping paterns arose when I started university. Long lectures, long books, new and odd stuff which sometimes needed a large amount of time, like seven or eight hours until I had all the necessary theories on my brain. That was in the beginning when, as I said, graduated from high school and entered university which, in its early days, was a meer nightmare that has changed me in many ways, including my sleep patern. I now sleep like at 2:00 AM in the night and walk at 7:00 AM in the morning. I attend university from 8: 00 until we are finished. Hopefully, sometimes we do not have many classes and it ends up very well like it ended today with three classes. But, you know, you have to compensate the sleep and the rest you couldn't complete last night. And I do, cause if I don't, I won't be able to do anything else besides fighting with the sleep which is followed by a harsh fatigue which occupys every cell of my body. So, I ha ve to do nothing else, but sleep (in the afternoon).These are the problems I face right now with sleep paterns which I find to be very problematic at the moment. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297356#p297356 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Your Experience with Sleeping Patterns I struggle with sleeping patterns too. Mostly the weird drifting out of alignment thing, and I'm wondering why something like this is caused. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=297358#p297358 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
